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<blockquote data-quote="Jedi_Solo" data-source="post: 2913541" data-attributes="member: 40245">Just for the record I am a player in my group and not the DM.For my group it can range from very fast to sleep-inducing slow.&nbsp; There are a couple of thing I have noticed that make a lot of difference:1) Number of particpents in the fight.&nbsp; Cohorts, animal companions, summoned critters, etc.&nbsp; The higher the number of minis on the table - the longer the fight takes.&nbsp; This makes sense since a single round would have more actions taking place, but it is amazing how much longer just two or three more markers on the battlemap can make a fight go.2) Complexity of participents.&nbsp; As Shade mentioned, the lower level fights take a shorter amount of time partly because of the lack of options.&nbsp; More options means more work for the players and DMs to keep track of stuff and usually means lower damage per attack which means more attacks needed to kill something.2.5) Players deciding ahead of time what to do.&nbsp; Heavily related to #2.&nbsp; It is amazing, to me at aleast, that some players pay no attention to the battlemap if something isn't happening to them right that instant.&nbsp; Then they need to reexamine the battlemap and figure out the best option for what they can do.&nbsp; At higher levels this gets even worse when there are more options available.&nbsp; Our group had one player that loves crazy characters (both mentally crazy and wierd builds).&nbsp; He had a tendancy to talk to other players when it wasn't his turn and was completely oblivious to the combat.&nbsp; Whith his wild and crazy builds he wasn't sure half-the-time what he could or could not do.&nbsp; I was about to strangle him over his pact magic character.I think 2.5 is really where stuff slows down.&nbsp; If something major happens just before your turn (PC goes down, Big Bad monster goes down, monster charges across map) a few second to rethink your options isn't a problem.&nbsp; I try to keep two or three options in my head so my turn can (hopefully) go rather quickly.&nbsp; But this requires me to know what my character can do and for me to pay attention to the events happening on the table.If you will excuse me for a second...[frustration]Come on people!!!! Pay attention!!!&nbsp; My turn WILL affect your action!!!![/frustration]Whew!&nbsp; Thanks.&nbsp; I needed that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jedi_Solo, post: 2913541, member: 40245"] Just for the record I am a player in my group and not the DM. For my group it can range from very fast to sleep-inducing slow. There are a couple of thing I have noticed that make a lot of difference: 1) Number of particpents in the fight. Cohorts, animal companions, summoned critters, etc. The higher the number of minis on the table - the longer the fight takes. This makes sense since a single round would have more actions taking place, but it is amazing how much longer just two or three more markers on the battlemap can make a fight go. 2) Complexity of participents. As Shade mentioned, the lower level fights take a shorter amount of time partly because of the lack of options. More options means more work for the players and DMs to keep track of stuff and usually means lower damage per attack which means more attacks needed to kill something. 2.5) Players deciding ahead of time what to do. Heavily related to #2. It is amazing, to me at aleast, that some players pay no attention to the battlemap if something isn't happening to them right that instant. Then they need to reexamine the battlemap and figure out the best option for what they can do. At higher levels this gets even worse when there are more options available. Our group had one player that loves crazy characters (both mentally crazy and wierd builds). He had a tendancy to talk to other players when it wasn't his turn and was completely oblivious to the combat. Whith his wild and crazy builds he wasn't sure half-the-time what he could or could not do. I was about to strangle him over his pact magic character. I think 2.5 is really where stuff slows down. If something major happens just before your turn (PC goes down, Big Bad monster goes down, monster charges across map) a few second to rethink your options isn't a problem. I try to keep two or three options in my head so my turn can (hopefully) go rather quickly. But this requires me to know what my character can do and for me to pay attention to the events happening on the table. If you will excuse me for a second... [frustration] Come on people!!!! Pay attention!!! My turn WILL affect your action!!!! [/frustration] Whew! Thanks. I needed that. [/QUOTE]

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