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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sigurd" data-source="post: 2735430" data-attributes="member: 19412">The first advantage of in house magic item creation is not cost but flexibility. You find x amount or random or near random magic items and you want a type of bonus in a type of use slot. Thats a huge advantage.You also get an assurance of quality and no bad mojo. Why knows what curses, previous owners etc... come with another item. Buyer beware becomes Party Protected.I've always expected a discount for party members if you are making items. I think it is posing to make up objections based on off game time that, usually, nobody plays or really benefits from. At the same time I do think EXP losses are a real cost. The magic item maker may not want to make any item if they are focused on the next level. To expect the creator will do it for free, and pay for it in EXP is just rude.I don't think its fair to alot a party share to making items because then the creator pays for the item twice. It might be enough to draw a share for the item creator and then calculate the item creation slush fund from the remaining shares.Adventures where they keep careful check of component costs and magic creation costs have to deal with the Wizards being _much_ more expensive to play. The party does not want the Wizard to not cast the spell because he cannot afford the 1000gp gem it requires. If the party doesn't have a policy for that they are kicking themselves in the teeth.The final say on the creation of items has to be the creators. Usually thats enough to bargain with to get reasonable treatment. Its definately a question I would ask before taking item creation feats. I'd request the Party also pay towards\or for the wizard's laboratory.Sigurd</blockquote>

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