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<blockquote data-quote="Richards" data-source="post: 7903638" data-attributes="member: 508"><p>Some further thoughts:</p><p></p><p>The Ruth Doctor kind of works as a pre-Hartnell Doctor if we assume her TARDIS isn't stolen (because we know Hartnell, the First Doctor, was the one who stole the TARDIS in the first place). She could have been given the TARDIS by the Time Lords and sent to Earth on a secret mission, requiring her to use the chameleon gate to temporarily transform into a human. Then, mission complete (which hasn't been shown on screen yet), she later returns to Gallifrey, eventually regenerates into the First Doctor, who at some point gets fed up with Time Lord intervention and decides to steal a TARDIS. If that were true, it would explain why he chose that particular Type 40 - he'd already become accustomed to it from his previous incarnation.</p><p></p><p>But that raises some questions about regeneration: it's been stated (since regeneration was mentioned on the show) that Time Lords can regenerate 12 times, for a total of 13 bodies. This was a plot point with the Master during the Fourth Doctor's era, since he had used up his 12 regenerations and was shambling around like a lich (in "The Deadly Assassin") and was offered a new complete set of regenerations during "The Five Doctors" (after abducting Nyssa's father's body in "The Keeper of Traken"). Also, the Eleventh Doctor was at the end of his regeneration cycle (10 previous forms, his current form, plus the War Doctor, plus the Tenth Doctor "wasting" a regeneration on growing his severed hand into a clone replica for Rose), so the Ruth Doctor being a previous incarnation of the Doctor doesn't make the math add up.</p><p></p><p>Unless...the Ruth Doctor is just one of the Doctor's original 13 bodies, at the end of which he was (for whatever reason) given a new full set of regenerations and the First Doctor we know is really just the first of the second set of 13. That's possible, but I don't really like it - too much retconning for my liking. (Although it helps explain the extra images when the Fourth Doctor was engaged in a mental duel with Morbius (in "The Brain of Morbius") when the images on the screen regress from Tom Baker to Pertwee to Troughton to Hartnell...to a bunch of other men we'd never seen before. Former Morbius forms, or previous Doctor incarnations?</p><p></p><p>Eh - I'm still holding out on the "parallel universe" explanation.</p><p></p><p>Johnathan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Richards, post: 7903638, member: 508"] Some further thoughts: The Ruth Doctor kind of works as a pre-Hartnell Doctor if we assume her TARDIS isn't stolen (because we know Hartnell, the First Doctor, was the one who stole the TARDIS in the first place). She could have been given the TARDIS by the Time Lords and sent to Earth on a secret mission, requiring her to use the chameleon gate to temporarily transform into a human. Then, mission complete (which hasn't been shown on screen yet), she later returns to Gallifrey, eventually regenerates into the First Doctor, who at some point gets fed up with Time Lord intervention and decides to steal a TARDIS. If that were true, it would explain why he chose that particular Type 40 - he'd already become accustomed to it from his previous incarnation. But that raises some questions about regeneration: it's been stated (since regeneration was mentioned on the show) that Time Lords can regenerate 12 times, for a total of 13 bodies. This was a plot point with the Master during the Fourth Doctor's era, since he had used up his 12 regenerations and was shambling around like a lich (in "The Deadly Assassin") and was offered a new complete set of regenerations during "The Five Doctors" (after abducting Nyssa's father's body in "The Keeper of Traken"). Also, the Eleventh Doctor was at the end of his regeneration cycle (10 previous forms, his current form, plus the War Doctor, plus the Tenth Doctor "wasting" a regeneration on growing his severed hand into a clone replica for Rose), so the Ruth Doctor being a previous incarnation of the Doctor doesn't make the math add up. Unless...the Ruth Doctor is just one of the Doctor's original 13 bodies, at the end of which he was (for whatever reason) given a new full set of regenerations and the First Doctor we know is really just the first of the second set of 13. That's possible, but I don't really like it - too much retconning for my liking. (Although it helps explain the extra images when the Fourth Doctor was engaged in a mental duel with Morbius (in "The Brain of Morbius") when the images on the screen regress from Tom Baker to Pertwee to Troughton to Hartnell...to a bunch of other men we'd never seen before. Former Morbius forms, or previous Doctor incarnations? Eh - I'm still holding out on the "parallel universe" explanation. Johnathan [/QUOTE]
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