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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9218240" data-attributes="member: 18">I think the issue with Who is sometimes that there's a line of stupidity beyond which it isn't as much fun anymore, even for kids. I remember as a kid watching some SF show, which was for kids, and I can't remember exactly what the stupid thing was, but it was so dumb, even at like 8, I was kind of embarrassed to be watching it. This happened a few times, too. And I'm sure there are kids who have felt that with some Who episodes.I'll say this for Who - sometimes it manages to do something incredibly moronic, which should be embarrassing to watch, but does it with such verve that it doesn't matter. But sometimes... it's just dumb. And you're like "ugh..." . And some are outright offensive, even they swear they didn't mean to be - Kill the Moon for example, is just shameful.Of course, that Chibnall was allegedly steering away from the total idiocy was part of why people were excited about him, and look how THAT ended up! Boring and dumb! Lose/lose! (And such a waste of good actors!) So I guess if we can at least avoid boring that's something. I do wish that RTD had say, the scientific knowledge of, I dunno, a well-educated and intelligent 10 year old. That'd be something. But we can't wish for the impossible. So we'll have to coast on snappy dialogue and good performances. It could be worse. Chibnall reminds us it could be so much worse.</blockquote>