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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5305438" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Prior to the Time War, TARDISes only encountered each other in chronological order, according to what some have called "Gallifreyan Standard Time". Evidence for this is present in <em>The Ribos Operation</em> (Romana can make a statement about the Doctor's age that she fully believes to be accurate), <em>Mawdryn Undead </em>(although events are happening in two different time periods, the Doctor attempts to explain that they are also happening <strong><em>now</em></strong>), and <em>Time and the Rani </em>(the Doctor can know the Rani's age <strong>by knowing his own age</strong>).</p><p></p><p>In effect, Gallifrey is not located in four-dimensional space-time, but in a five-dimensional continuum (Susan tries to explain this in An Unearthly Child), where Gallifrey is travelling obliquely to time. Thus, no matter what time one travels to externally, if one then travels to Gallifrey it is always "now" on Gallifrey. One sees reference to this in <em>The Invasion of Time</em>. It also explains the 4th Doctor's remark that he is more properly from "Inner Time" than "Outer Space".</p><p></p><p>Assume that it takes the ability to travel in 5 dimensions to lift out of one part of four-dimensional space-time and rematerialize in another. This is what is seen both in terms of the Vortex and the temporal orbit in <em>Mawdryn Undead</em> and elsewhere. Several species in <em>Doctor Who </em>seem capable of this type of time travel.</p><p></p><p>In order to gain access to another point in Gallifrey's history, one must be able to travel in 6 dimensions to lift out of one part of the five-dimensional Gallifreyan Standard Timeframe and rematerialize in another part. TARDISes are not made to do this, but can be caused to do so in some cases (i.e., <em>Inferno</em> may be a case where a time track is jumped, as is <em>The Space Museum</em>).</p><p></p><p>Apart from the Time Lords, only the Daleks are shown to possess their own 5-dimensional space-time frame, so that they can be encountered time travelling out of sequence, so that Skaro can be destroyed and restored, so that the time lock on Gallifrey doesn't necessarily also contain the Daleks, and so that they can actually be a threat to the Time Lords. </p><p></p><p>Ironically, the Daleks probably got this technology (or started on it) when Davros interrogated the 4th Doctor in <em>Genesis of the Daleks</em>.</p><p></p><p>After the Time War, Gallifrey's 5dstf is locked away, so that the Doctor has no access to it. As a result, he has no access to the Eye of Harmony, and needs to refuel. He cannot re-establish contact with Gallifrey without breaking the Time Lock, releasing the Time Lords, and allowing the Time War to continue.</p><p></p><p>He also has no direct telepathic contact with any other Time Lord through the TARDIS's link to Gallifrey. There is reason to believe that other Time Lords may have survived -- the Doctor's claim that he would known is sheer bunkum. After all, both the Doctor and the Master were on Earth before Archangel launched, and the Doctor didn't know. Likewise, he has failed to recognize Azrael, the Master, and K'Anpo/Cho Je in the past.</p><p></p><p>What is actually interesting is how the Doctor could both create the Time Lock and escape it. I imagine this has something to do with the 8th Doctor being half human (regenerative imprinting on Grace), just as the Master avoided the Time Lock by use of his Chameleon Arch.</p><p></p><p>We know that several Dalek groups escaped, either because they were not linked to the Dalek 5dstf (not true Daleks ala Victory of the Daleks) or because they somehow managed to sever themselves/got severed (as in <em>Dalek</em>, the so-called "God of the Daleks", and the Cult of Skaro).</p><p></p><p>So, there exists the possibility of Time Lords escaping because they were somehow not linked to the 5dstf at the time it occurred, because they somehow escaped the 5dstf while it was in effect (like the Doctor and Romana escaping the time loop in <em>Meglos</em>), or because they somehow escaped the 5dstf when Rassilon attempted to end the Time Loop via the Master.</p><p></p><p>Indeed, the Monk may be quite lucky if his TARDIS was still malfunctioning when the Time Lock occurred!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5305438, member: 18280"] Prior to the Time War, TARDISes only encountered each other in chronological order, according to what some have called "Gallifreyan Standard Time". Evidence for this is present in [I]The Ribos Operation[/I] (Romana can make a statement about the Doctor's age that she fully believes to be accurate), [I]Mawdryn Undead [/I](although events are happening in two different time periods, the Doctor attempts to explain that they are also happening [B][I]now[/I][/B]), and [I]Time and the Rani [/I](the Doctor can know the Rani's age [B]by knowing his own age[/B]). In effect, Gallifrey is not located in four-dimensional space-time, but in a five-dimensional continuum (Susan tries to explain this in An Unearthly Child), where Gallifrey is travelling obliquely to time. Thus, no matter what time one travels to externally, if one then travels to Gallifrey it is always "now" on Gallifrey. One sees reference to this in [I]The Invasion of Time[/I]. It also explains the 4th Doctor's remark that he is more properly from "Inner Time" than "Outer Space". Assume that it takes the ability to travel in 5 dimensions to lift out of one part of four-dimensional space-time and rematerialize in another. This is what is seen both in terms of the Vortex and the temporal orbit in [I]Mawdryn Undead[/I] and elsewhere. Several species in [I]Doctor Who [/I]seem capable of this type of time travel. In order to gain access to another point in Gallifrey's history, one must be able to travel in 6 dimensions to lift out of one part of the five-dimensional Gallifreyan Standard Timeframe and rematerialize in another part. TARDISes are not made to do this, but can be caused to do so in some cases (i.e., [I]Inferno[/I] may be a case where a time track is jumped, as is [I]The Space Museum[/I]). Apart from the Time Lords, only the Daleks are shown to possess their own 5-dimensional space-time frame, so that they can be encountered time travelling out of sequence, so that Skaro can be destroyed and restored, so that the time lock on Gallifrey doesn't necessarily also contain the Daleks, and so that they can actually be a threat to the Time Lords. Ironically, the Daleks probably got this technology (or started on it) when Davros interrogated the 4th Doctor in [I]Genesis of the Daleks[/I]. After the Time War, Gallifrey's 5dstf is locked away, so that the Doctor has no access to it. As a result, he has no access to the Eye of Harmony, and needs to refuel. He cannot re-establish contact with Gallifrey without breaking the Time Lock, releasing the Time Lords, and allowing the Time War to continue. He also has no direct telepathic contact with any other Time Lord through the TARDIS's link to Gallifrey. There is reason to believe that other Time Lords may have survived -- the Doctor's claim that he would known is sheer bunkum. After all, both the Doctor and the Master were on Earth before Archangel launched, and the Doctor didn't know. Likewise, he has failed to recognize Azrael, the Master, and K'Anpo/Cho Je in the past. What is actually interesting is how the Doctor could both create the Time Lock and escape it. I imagine this has something to do with the 8th Doctor being half human (regenerative imprinting on Grace), just as the Master avoided the Time Lock by use of his Chameleon Arch. We know that several Dalek groups escaped, either because they were not linked to the Dalek 5dstf (not true Daleks ala Victory of the Daleks) or because they somehow managed to sever themselves/got severed (as in [I]Dalek[/I], the so-called "God of the Daleks", and the Cult of Skaro). So, there exists the possibility of Time Lords escaping because they were somehow not linked to the 5dstf at the time it occurred, because they somehow escaped the 5dstf while it was in effect (like the Doctor and Romana escaping the time loop in [I]Meglos[/I]), or because they somehow escaped the 5dstf when Rassilon attempted to end the Time Loop via the Master. Indeed, the Monk may be quite lucky if his TARDIS was still malfunctioning when the Time Lock occurred! RC [/QUOTE]
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