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<blockquote data-quote="Necropolitan" data-source="post: 9651456" data-attributes="member: 6669245"><p>The issue is Kate doing so is presented as a good thing.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile Torchwood destroying the 456 was presented as a good thing, with the only issue being the horrific way they had to do it in.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's no actual evidence of that beyond The Doctor's word, and he had been repeatedly shown to be wrong. Including during that very scenario in fact! Him pushing for diplomacy actually got more people killed because the Sycorax murdered the diplomats!</p><p></p><p>The Sycorax were retreating with the equivalent of a fist-shake and "I'll get you next time!" Their leader responded to losing a duel by trying to backstab The Doctor, you really think the rest of them would be any better? If they didn't want to get their ship shot down they shouldn't have invaded Earth and tried to enslave everyone in the first place.</p><p></p><p>Was it bad when UNIT sneak-attacked the Sontarans in The Poison Sky after they tried gassing the planet?</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]lxoKmsvCAOc[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Sycorax were not "defenseless," I don't know why you're making that false claim. They still had all their weapons, they just didn't expect Torchwood to have a weapon capable of destroying their ship.</p><p></p><p>Conrad on the other hand HAD been rendered defenseless. He had no further way of harming anyone and UNIT could have just moved in and arrested him.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is like animal control unleashing a rabid dog on someone, the police doing the same with a serial killer, or a government health agency infecting someone with a deadly disease. A government official abusing their power this way is really bad.</p><p></p><p></p><p>UNIT is an unaccountable government agency that actively covers up threats to the public and has now moved to threatening the public if they dare to ask for accountability.</p><p></p><p>In previous Doctor Who series this would be presented as a bad thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What part of that message required attempted murder?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Necropolitan, post: 9651456, member: 6669245"] The issue is Kate doing so is presented as a good thing. Meanwhile Torchwood destroying the 456 was presented as a good thing, with the only issue being the horrific way they had to do it in. There's no actual evidence of that beyond The Doctor's word, and he had been repeatedly shown to be wrong. Including during that very scenario in fact! Him pushing for diplomacy actually got more people killed because the Sycorax murdered the diplomats! The Sycorax were retreating with the equivalent of a fist-shake and "I'll get you next time!" Their leader responded to losing a duel by trying to backstab The Doctor, you really think the rest of them would be any better? If they didn't want to get their ship shot down they shouldn't have invaded Earth and tried to enslave everyone in the first place. Was it bad when UNIT sneak-attacked the Sontarans in The Poison Sky after they tried gassing the planet? [MEDIA=youtube]lxoKmsvCAOc[/MEDIA] The Sycorax were not "defenseless," I don't know why you're making that false claim. They still had all their weapons, they just didn't expect Torchwood to have a weapon capable of destroying their ship. Conrad on the other hand HAD been rendered defenseless. He had no further way of harming anyone and UNIT could have just moved in and arrested him. This is like animal control unleashing a rabid dog on someone, the police doing the same with a serial killer, or a government health agency infecting someone with a deadly disease. A government official abusing their power this way is really bad. UNIT is an unaccountable government agency that actively covers up threats to the public and has now moved to threatening the public if they dare to ask for accountability. In previous Doctor Who series this would be presented as a bad thing. What part of that message required attempted murder? [/QUOTE]
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