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<blockquote data-quote="horacethegrey" data-source="post: 4282759" data-attributes="member: 40123"><p>All right mate, you want to know why I don't like Davros? Here's why: I think by and large he's useless. That's right. <strong>Useless</strong>. There's no logical reason for me as to why this character should be still around when he'd served his purpose in <em>Genesis</em>. The guy opened a proverbial Pandora's Box upon the universe when he created the Daleks, and ended paying for it with his life. It was the ultimate dramatic irony, all that he had created ended up destroying him. But then Terry Nation brought him back in equally dreadful <em>Destiny of the Daleks</em>, thus cheapening whatever dramatic consequence <em>Genesis </em>might have had on the series. And here's another thing, his continued presence cheapens the Daleks in turn and makes them look incompetent. How can we be convinced that these roaming pepperpotts are the greatest menace the universe will ever know, when they have to defer to this cripple on a roaming chair? The daleks were frighteningly intelligent and cunning long before they brought Davros back. So what was the whole point of bringing him back?</p><p></p><p>The one thing I've always loved about the Daleks was their monotony. Every single Dalek you encountered was the same hate driven squiddy alien inside a death dealing machine. There was no emo dalek, happy go lucky dalek, rock and roll dalek, etc. They're a nightmare vision of a race with no individuality to speak of, coupled with an irrational need to hate everything they perceive as different from them. In my mind that makes them superior to similar races such as the Cybermen and the Borg. So it makes no sense to me why they'd tolerate Davros' presence, let alone revere him.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What's even more bizarre is that you think I just focused on the daleks in <em>Genesis </em>as a basis for my judgement. As I recall, there were other characters in that story. There were the Thals, the Kaleds, Sarah Jane, Harry Sullivan, Davros, and who else? Oh yeah, <strong>the Doctor</strong>. And the dialog they had was excruciatingly bad. It made the <em>Star Wars</em> prequels look like Jane Austen in comparison.</p><p></p><p>And no Dalek ever had great dialogue? The Ninth Doctor episode <em>Dalek </em>had some great lines for the Dalek featured in that story. And the Dalek emperor in <em>Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways</em> had some great verbal sparring with the Doctor.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said it was true for everyone, just that there were probably others who shared my feelings. And I personally know some people who don't have childhood nostalgia of <em>Doctor Who</em>, yet love the series despite this. </p><p></p><p>I hate to say this mate. But your offhand remark about people not liking <strong>mature </strong>stories like <em>Genesis </em>just cause they loved seeing rubber monsters running around was kinda tactless, and verging on insulting. Can't you accept the fact the some people don't like <em>Genesis </em>because they find it a bad story?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="horacethegrey, post: 4282759, member: 40123"] All right mate, you want to know why I don't like Davros? Here's why: I think by and large he's useless. That's right. [B]Useless[/B]. There's no logical reason for me as to why this character should be still around when he'd served his purpose in [I]Genesis[/I]. The guy opened a proverbial Pandora's Box upon the universe when he created the Daleks, and ended paying for it with his life. It was the ultimate dramatic irony, all that he had created ended up destroying him. But then Terry Nation brought him back in equally dreadful [I]Destiny of the Daleks[/I], thus cheapening whatever dramatic consequence [I]Genesis [/I]might have had on the series. And here's another thing, his continued presence cheapens the Daleks in turn and makes them look incompetent. How can we be convinced that these roaming pepperpotts are the greatest menace the universe will ever know, when they have to defer to this cripple on a roaming chair? The daleks were frighteningly intelligent and cunning long before they brought Davros back. So what was the whole point of bringing him back? The one thing I've always loved about the Daleks was their monotony. Every single Dalek you encountered was the same hate driven squiddy alien inside a death dealing machine. There was no emo dalek, happy go lucky dalek, rock and roll dalek, etc. They're a nightmare vision of a race with no individuality to speak of, coupled with an irrational need to hate everything they perceive as different from them. In my mind that makes them superior to similar races such as the Cybermen and the Borg. So it makes no sense to me why they'd tolerate Davros' presence, let alone revere him. What's even more bizarre is that you think I just focused on the daleks in [I]Genesis [/I]as a basis for my judgement. As I recall, there were other characters in that story. There were the Thals, the Kaleds, Sarah Jane, Harry Sullivan, Davros, and who else? Oh yeah, [B]the Doctor[/B]. And the dialog they had was excruciatingly bad. It made the [I]Star Wars[/I] prequels look like Jane Austen in comparison. And no Dalek ever had great dialogue? The Ninth Doctor episode [I]Dalek [/I]had some great lines for the Dalek featured in that story. And the Dalek emperor in [I]Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways[/I] had some great verbal sparring with the Doctor. I never said it was true for everyone, just that there were probably others who shared my feelings. And I personally know some people who don't have childhood nostalgia of [I]Doctor Who[/I], yet love the series despite this. I hate to say this mate. But your offhand remark about people not liking [B]mature [/B]stories like [I]Genesis [/I]just cause they loved seeing rubber monsters running around was kinda tactless, and verging on insulting. Can't you accept the fact the some people don't like [I]Genesis [/I]because they find it a bad story? [/QUOTE]
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