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Dodge and Mobility, while Fighting Defensively (or with a Total Defense)
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<blockquote data-quote="Azlan" data-source="post: 879199" data-attributes="member: 2340"><p>If a character with Dodge and Mobility chooses to fight defensively, does he get a total dodge bonus of +6/+7 against attacks of opportunity? (The second dodge bonus is for use against one opponent.)</p><p></p><p>If that same character chooses to use a total defense, does he get a total dodge bonus of +8/+9 against attacks of opportunity? (Note that even with a total defense, you still get to move your speed.)</p><p></p><p>Can a character combine the Tumble skill with his Dodge and Mobility feats, thus gaining him a total dodge bonus of +7/+8 against attacks of opportunity while fighting defensively; or, a total dodge bonus of +10/+11 against attacks of opportunity while using a total defense against attacks of opportunity?</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>I have a character who wears heavy armor in my campaign. He has taken the Dodge and Mobility feats, and he likes to play the artful dodger, dancing all around the battlefield. Granted, he cannot use the Tumble skill while wearing heavy armor, but he can still use his Dodge and Mobility feats. The other players in the group have been so impressed with this combination of feats, they are considering taking it for their characters, with one or two of them combining it with the Tumble skill as well.</p><p></p><p>I don't know... this just doesn't seem right. I mean, these stackable bonuses seem a bit too high. And for a character in heavy armor being able to use Dodge and Mobility just as well as someone in light armor or none at all... </p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>I'm sure my players would be shocked and extremely displeased if I turned the tables upon them; with, say, a pack of goblin rogues having the Dodge and Mobility feats, and the Tumble skill to boot. The player characters would be getting sneak-attacked left and right, and they'd be hard pressed to attack those mobile goblins with their high (and stackable) dodge bonuses, as those goblins maneuvered into flanking positions.</p><p></p><p>But I don't like to DM that way, becomes then it becomes a game of "one-upmanship" between the players and the DM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Azlan, post: 879199, member: 2340"] If a character with Dodge and Mobility chooses to fight defensively, does he get a total dodge bonus of +6/+7 against attacks of opportunity? (The second dodge bonus is for use against one opponent.) If that same character chooses to use a total defense, does he get a total dodge bonus of +8/+9 against attacks of opportunity? (Note that even with a total defense, you still get to move your speed.) Can a character combine the Tumble skill with his Dodge and Mobility feats, thus gaining him a total dodge bonus of +7/+8 against attacks of opportunity while fighting defensively; or, a total dodge bonus of +10/+11 against attacks of opportunity while using a total defense against attacks of opportunity? :confused: I have a character who wears heavy armor in my campaign. He has taken the Dodge and Mobility feats, and he likes to play the artful dodger, dancing all around the battlefield. Granted, he cannot use the Tumble skill while wearing heavy armor, but he can still use his Dodge and Mobility feats. The other players in the group have been so impressed with this combination of feats, they are considering taking it for their characters, with one or two of them combining it with the Tumble skill as well. I don't know... this just doesn't seem right. I mean, these stackable bonuses seem a bit too high. And for a character in heavy armor being able to use Dodge and Mobility just as well as someone in light armor or none at all... :( I'm sure my players would be shocked and extremely displeased if I turned the tables upon them; with, say, a pack of goblin rogues having the Dodge and Mobility feats, and the Tumble skill to boot. The player characters would be getting sneak-attacked left and right, and they'd be hard pressed to attack those mobile goblins with their high (and stackable) dodge bonuses, as those goblins maneuvered into flanking positions. But I don't like to DM that way, becomes then it becomes a game of "one-upmanship" between the players and the DM. [/QUOTE]
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