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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8861616" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>You know, I'm leaning towards reverting to the earlier WIS (+1), CHA (+2) like before since it's a Minion now.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: the primary reason for fancying a reversion to CHA 14 or 15 was to soften my proposed Soul Drain to DC 15 from 16, which felt a tad too high. Having a +2 Wisdom modifier doesn't bother me if you'd like to make it, say WIS 14, CHA 15? :ENDEDIT</p><p></p><p>I'm also wondering whether it should do less damage to reduce the Challenge. With CR 16 you can't really have one of them team up with a few troglo-wights to face a 13th level party without accusations of being a killer DM.</p><p></p><p>Removing or reducing the necrotic damage from its attacks would be the simplest way of doing that, as would reducing the number of Legendary Action <em><strong>Greatclub</strong></em> attacks. If the Death Touch costs 2 then the Greatclub should have the same cost if we're allowing it to swap a Soul Drain for a Greatclub attack with <em><strong>Multiattack</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>Hmm… Also, a regular Wight can make two ranged attacks with Multiattack, so I'm tempted to give this lad the same, i.e.:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Multiattack.</strong></em> The stone giant wight makes two greatclub attacks or two rock attacks. It can use its Soul Drain in place of one greatclub attack.</p><p></p><p>If we do that we'd want the <em><strong>Rock</strong></em> attack to do the same or slightly less damage than the <em><strong>Greatclub</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>i.e. if the Rock does 28 (4d10 + 6) then the Greatclub should do about 28-30, so maybe 19 (3d8 + 6) bludgeoning plus 9 (2d8), 10 (3d6) or 11 (2d10) necrotic?</p><p></p><p>Of those, I like the 3d6 necrotic the best for 30 average damage per Greatclub smack. That adds to 90 DPR for two Multiattack smacks plus a 2 Cost Legendary Action smack, which comes to <strong>Challenge</strong> 14 (11,500) according to the CR Calculator.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8861616, member: 57383"] You know, I'm leaning towards reverting to the earlier WIS (+1), CHA (+2) like before since it's a Minion now. EDIT: the primary reason for fancying a reversion to CHA 14 or 15 was to soften my proposed Soul Drain to DC 15 from 16, which felt a tad too high. Having a +2 Wisdom modifier doesn't bother me if you'd like to make it, say WIS 14, CHA 15? :ENDEDIT I'm also wondering whether it should do less damage to reduce the Challenge. With CR 16 you can't really have one of them team up with a few troglo-wights to face a 13th level party without accusations of being a killer DM. Removing or reducing the necrotic damage from its attacks would be the simplest way of doing that, as would reducing the number of Legendary Action [I][B]Greatclub[/B][/I] attacks. If the Death Touch costs 2 then the Greatclub should have the same cost if we're allowing it to swap a Soul Drain for a Greatclub attack with [I][B]Multiattack[/B][/I]. Hmm… Also, a regular Wight can make two ranged attacks with Multiattack, so I'm tempted to give this lad the same, i.e.: [INDENT][I][B]Multiattack.[/B][/I] The stone giant wight makes two greatclub attacks or two rock attacks. It can use its Soul Drain in place of one greatclub attack.[/INDENT] If we do that we'd want the [I][B]Rock[/B][/I] attack to do the same or slightly less damage than the [I][B]Greatclub[/B][/I]. i.e. if the Rock does 28 (4d10 + 6) then the Greatclub should do about 28-30, so maybe 19 (3d8 + 6) bludgeoning plus 9 (2d8), 10 (3d6) or 11 (2d10) necrotic? Of those, I like the 3d6 necrotic the best for 30 average damage per Greatclub smack. That adds to 90 DPR for two Multiattack smacks plus a 2 Cost Legendary Action smack, which comes to [B]Challenge[/B] 14 (11,500) according to the CR Calculator. [/QUOTE]
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