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Does 4e limit the scope of campaigns?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Ghost" data-source="post: 4669729" data-attributes="member: 60281"><p>What is basically being argued is that you gain more by focusing your skill points on a few skills rather than spreading out your skill points over multiple skills. If the entire party does this you will have the greatest chance for success at any given skill. By contrast, if the party chooses to spread there skill points out you lesson your chance for success. </p><p></p><p>This assumes the DM does not compensate the party for its decisions by lowering the DC necessary to succeed. </p><p></p><p>Example: A party with four characters who, for arguments sake, have the following skills Character A - Diplomacy 20 ranks, Character B - Knowledge 20 ranks, Character C - Listen 20 ranks, Character D - Use Rope 20 ranks, are more likely to succeed at Diplomacy, Knowledge, Listen, or Use Rope than a party in which characters A, B, C, and D all have 5 ranks each in those particular skills.</p><p></p><p>The other thought is that a party in which some specialize while others do not will marginalize the ones who do not. They will rarely be able to succeed at a greater level than one who is fully (maxed out) trained in whichever particular skill. </p><p></p><p>In the end, your investment in said skill is only valuable by how often it is successful in the game.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, despite my arguments above I would prefer a system and players who played this way. Luckily, the guys I play with are exactly that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Ghost, post: 4669729, member: 60281"] What is basically being argued is that you gain more by focusing your skill points on a few skills rather than spreading out your skill points over multiple skills. If the entire party does this you will have the greatest chance for success at any given skill. By contrast, if the party chooses to spread there skill points out you lesson your chance for success. This assumes the DM does not compensate the party for its decisions by lowering the DC necessary to succeed. Example: A party with four characters who, for arguments sake, have the following skills Character A - Diplomacy 20 ranks, Character B - Knowledge 20 ranks, Character C - Listen 20 ranks, Character D - Use Rope 20 ranks, are more likely to succeed at Diplomacy, Knowledge, Listen, or Use Rope than a party in which characters A, B, C, and D all have 5 ranks each in those particular skills. The other thought is that a party in which some specialize while others do not will marginalize the ones who do not. They will rarely be able to succeed at a greater level than one who is fully (maxed out) trained in whichever particular skill. In the end, your investment in said skill is only valuable by how often it is successful in the game. I agree, despite my arguments above I would prefer a system and players who played this way. Luckily, the guys I play with are exactly that. :) [/QUOTE]
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