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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorPain" data-source="post: 4669743" data-attributes="member: 82012"><p>then i think he should have paid more attention to my earlier argument about make or break skill checks and party success v. individual success.&nbsp; Everything is different when the group succeeds as a whole because of one persons success or failure; but that doesn't mean the whole party has to suceed or fail on it. The consequences for success and failure should vary from challenge to challenge. As I said before, just becuase the guy with +20 in diplomacy wants to be the one to address the king, it doesn't mean the king wants to interact with him. It also doesn't mean the other players diplomacy rolls wont have an impact on the story.&nbsp; Maybe the guy with a +20 gets the king's ear, and secures whatever it is the PCs are looking for. But the guy with no ranks, may end up in the dungeon for accidentally insulting the king. The guy with the +2 might make it by the skin of&nbsp; his teeth. I understand the concept of everyone specializing in a few areas so that the whole party is covered. But there are times when this doesn't work. And it isn't always appropriate to give the whole party a pass because one member of thier group suceeds.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="ProfessorPain, post: 4669743, member: 82012"] then i think he should have paid more attention to my earlier argument about make or break skill checks and party success v. individual success. Everything is different when the group succeeds as a whole because of one persons success or failure; but that doesn't mean the whole party has to suceed or fail on it. The consequences for success and failure should vary from challenge to challenge. As I said before, just becuase the guy with +20 in diplomacy wants to be the one to address the king, it doesn't mean the king wants to interact with him. It also doesn't mean the other players diplomacy rolls wont have an impact on the story. Maybe the guy with a +20 gets the king's ear, and secures whatever it is the PCs are looking for. But the guy with no ranks, may end up in the dungeon for accidentally insulting the king. The guy with the +2 might make it by the skin of his teeth. I understand the concept of everyone specializing in a few areas so that the whole party is covered. But there are times when this doesn't work. And it isn't always appropriate to give the whole party a pass because one member of thier group suceeds. [/QUOTE]

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