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<blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 4669780" data-attributes="member: 7533">Okay...&nbsp; I too, have been playing role playing for over fifteen (over twenty, actually) years, and in general, I too prefer game systems that allow me to take ranks in skills.&nbsp; However, in practice, the D20 method of doing it doesn't work as well as I'd like it to.&nbsp; From observed experience over the past few years with dozens of gamers, from both the player side and the DM side of the screen, here's what I've seen happen...<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Most players either maxed out a skill or left a skill completely empty with no ranks at all.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skills that have ranks but aren't maxed out were almost always not maxed out for one of three reasons...&nbsp; 1) Meeting the minimum prerequisites for a PrC or a feat, 2) Taking just 1 or 2 ranks for roleplaying purposes,&nbsp; or 3) The player wanted to max the skill out, but couldn't because skill points were used for 1 or 2.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Unless no one else in the party has that skill maxed out, an unmaxed skill almost never got used.&nbsp; At best it would get occassional use when Aiding Another.</li>
</ul>Granted, it didn't always work out that way, but 9 times out of ten, it did.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pbartender, post: 4669780, member: 7533"] Okay... I too, have been playing role playing for over fifteen (over twenty, actually) years, and in general, I too prefer game systems that allow me to take ranks in skills. However, in practice, the D20 method of doing it doesn't work as well as I'd like it to. From observed experience over the past few years with dozens of gamers, from both the player side and the DM side of the screen, here's what I've seen happen... [LIST] [*]Most players either maxed out a skill or left a skill completely empty with no ranks at all. [*]Skills that have ranks but aren't maxed out were almost always not maxed out for one of three reasons... 1) Meeting the minimum prerequisites for a PrC or a feat, 2) Taking just 1 or 2 ranks for roleplaying purposes, or 3) The player wanted to max the skill out, but couldn't because skill points were used for 1 or 2. [*]Unless no one else in the party has that skill maxed out, an unmaxed skill almost never got used. At best it would get occassional use when Aiding Another. [/LIST] Granted, it didn't always work out that way, but 9 times out of ten, it did. [/QUOTE]

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