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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 4671919" data-attributes="member: 40177">Said exactly my point, in a much better way.&nbsp; Hats off, sirrah.&nbsp; For what it's worth, in our 4e session today, we sort of broke from the &quot;rules-only&quot; mindset and played things by ear.&nbsp; It was definitely more interesting.&nbsp; Powers are still limited (in comparison to non-combat abilities possessed by pre-4e classes), but the game experience was still fun.&nbsp; See, I thought that, too. BUT.&nbsp; It doesn't work that way.&nbsp; If I had an effect like Fireball knock my PCs prone, they'd flip - I was essentially taking away their move action, and not following rules.&nbsp; And why would I allow them to use Fireball to knock all the bad guys prone?Yeah, Fireball can light stuff on fire in 4e - but really, only if the GM either writes it into the terrain description, or thinks on his feet.&nbsp; And Fireball is a limited spell in most editions.Imagine, say.... Silent Image (one of my favourite spells).&nbsp; In 3e, there was a LOT you could do with it.&nbsp; In 4e, it's a spell that inflicts damage (in the wizards Dragon article).&nbsp; Maybe it'll be a utility one of these days.&nbsp; I've been thinking that, too.&nbsp; It makes me sad.&nbsp; I think that thread should be made.&nbsp; And make the thing flame-retardent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wik, post: 4671919, member: 40177"] Said exactly my point, in a much better way. Hats off, sirrah. For what it's worth, in our 4e session today, we sort of broke from the "rules-only" mindset and played things by ear. It was definitely more interesting. Powers are still limited (in comparison to non-combat abilities possessed by pre-4e classes), but the game experience was still fun. See, I thought that, too. BUT. It doesn't work that way. If I had an effect like Fireball knock my PCs prone, they'd flip - I was essentially taking away their move action, and not following rules. And why would I allow them to use Fireball to knock all the bad guys prone? Yeah, Fireball can light stuff on fire in 4e - but really, only if the GM either writes it into the terrain description, or thinks on his feet. And Fireball is a limited spell in most editions. Imagine, say.... Silent Image (one of my favourite spells). In 3e, there was a LOT you could do with it. In 4e, it's a spell that inflicts damage (in the wizards Dragon article). Maybe it'll be a utility one of these days. I've been thinking that, too. It makes me sad. I think that thread should be made. And make the thing flame-retardent. [/QUOTE]

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