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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 4717900" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>It certainly seems to simplify non-combat aspects to the extreme and channel gameplay toward combat encounters, regardless of player and DM intent.  We had an 18th level game last night, urban adventuring, with a DM who very much knows his stuff and loves non-combat encounters as much as anything else, precisely to see how gameplay with the 4E ruleset would engender non-combat gaming.  While I think that most would agree that without an ongoing campaign it is difficult to truly judge how much non-combat can be had with 4E, I think most would also have to agree that the ruleset gets further away from prompting non-combat than many other versions of D&D or even other RPGs.  It's seems to have been written to try and create a fast-paced miniatures combat game on which a DM might overlay an RPing campaign.  However, I have found that at all levels of play combat seems to bog down and require much more time to resolve than it should.  My group spans from twenty to fifty in age with the least experienced gamer having half a dozen years at the table and most having over twenty.</p></blockquote><p></p>