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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6297288" data-attributes="member: 2525">So if the claim is &quot;They do 1-2 layoffs each year&quot;, and it's been at least 2 years since it happens...we can conclude layoffs do not happen 1-2 times each year.To be clear, you said they had a strategy to lay people off once or twice a year.&nbsp; And then you said they have not followed that strategy for at least two years.&nbsp; And now you are saying they have not demonstrated an ability to delivery on a different strategy.I think it's pretty clear you understand they do deliver on different strategies, as in your own words they did just that.You mean the strategy interrupted by a murder suicide and locked code? That one?&nbsp; That's what leads you to believe that they cannot change their plan for what products to sell?No, let's not assume that, as that is exactly what we are debating - if that is an assumption someone can make with 100% certainty.And you can't.&nbsp; You don't get to just fiat over what others are saying here - I think your assumption is bunk, and I think you pretending it's a certainty when it's not, is also bunk.&nbsp; You can decide to not answer that, but you cannot pretend &quot;My assumption is correct so let's all just talk about that&quot; is itself a valid strategy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />OK, so finally now we've gotten to the point where we agree.&nbsp; You're not certain of that assumption - which is the only friggen thing I objected to, to begin with! I never claimed &quot;I know you are wrong&quot; I've only been saying all along &quot;I don't think it's fair to say we don't have any indications at all that they will do that.&quot;&nbsp; And I emphasized the word &quot;any&quot; and made it clear I was talking about that we have some reason to think it could happen, not that it definitely will happen.Damn, it's like pulling teeth in here sometimes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6297288, member: 2525"] So if the claim is "They do 1-2 layoffs each year", and it's been at least 2 years since it happens...we can conclude layoffs do not happen 1-2 times each year. To be clear, you said they had a strategy to lay people off once or twice a year. And then you said they have not followed that strategy for at least two years. And now you are saying they have not demonstrated an ability to delivery on a different strategy. I think it's pretty clear you understand they do deliver on different strategies, as in your own words they did just that. You mean the strategy interrupted by a murder suicide and locked code? That one? That's what leads you to believe that they cannot change their plan for what products to sell? No, let's not assume that, as that is exactly what we are debating - if that is an assumption someone can make with 100% certainty. And you can't. You don't get to just fiat over what others are saying here - I think your assumption is bunk, and I think you pretending it's a certainty when it's not, is also bunk. You can decide to not answer that, but you cannot pretend "My assumption is correct so let's all just talk about that" is itself a valid strategy :) OK, so finally now we've gotten to the point where we agree. You're not certain of that assumption - which is the only friggen thing I objected to, to begin with! I never claimed "I know you are wrong" I've only been saying all along "I don't think it's fair to say we don't have [B]any [/B]indications at all that they will do that." And I emphasized the word "any" and made it clear I was talking about that we have some reason to think it [B]could [/B]happen, not that it definitely will happen. Damn, it's like pulling teeth in here sometimes. [/QUOTE]

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