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Does a Charmed Monster / Person gain experience?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kor" data-source="post: 3776854" data-attributes="member: 26281"><p>A discussion that came up at our gaming table, wasn't in concern whether the charmed individual should be earning experience per se, but rather should they be deemed a full party member and be taking a full share?</p><p></p><p>Here are two different sides of this:</p><p></p><p>#1: The party needs a rogue for a dungeon, so rather than recruiting through normal means, a party member charms the rogue, and keeps him charmed during the adventure. During this time, the rogue assists the party in combats and disarming traps. As the rogue is performing as a full party member, shouldn't he earn a full share of experience -- thusly reducing the experience gained by all the party members?</p><p></p><p>#2: By expending a charm person / monster spell, a character is utilizing one of his classes resources (like a druid's animal companion ability). Accordingly, the charmed individual should not reduce the party's share in anyway... unless he continues to adventure with the party once the charm spell has worn off?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Most of our party favor's #2. In our exact situation, my enchantment optimized beguiler used his staff of Charm Monster to charm a Large Red Dragon. The red dragon, along with our 3 7th level party members, and 1 6th level, is being quite helpfull. The fortunate part was that the dragon wanted to enter a chasm to search out a black dragon enemy. Our goal was to enter the chasm to explore and recover a lost dwarf. Once charmed, and its disposition adjusted to Helpful, the dragon happily agreed for us to mutually work together to accomplish our objectives.</p><p></p><p>The dragon is definately proving his merit in combat, but because of this, the DM has queried whether it should also be taking an experience share as a full party member. As my character is optimized around enchantment, and did luck out with a poor will save from the DM, I am also leaning towards #2 above, but unlike an animal companion it is essentially performing against its will.</p><p></p><p>Any further thoughts out there on this? Should a charmed individual gain a full party share of experience as a member of the party (thus reducing the experience being gained by all invovled), or should the Charming ability simply be deemed a class ability which should not further detriment the character, other than by loss of the spell slot?</p><p></p><p>I was hoping this had been officially addressed somewhere, but it seems like it has not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kor, post: 3776854, member: 26281"] A discussion that came up at our gaming table, wasn't in concern whether the charmed individual should be earning experience per se, but rather should they be deemed a full party member and be taking a full share? Here are two different sides of this: #1: The party needs a rogue for a dungeon, so rather than recruiting through normal means, a party member charms the rogue, and keeps him charmed during the adventure. During this time, the rogue assists the party in combats and disarming traps. As the rogue is performing as a full party member, shouldn't he earn a full share of experience -- thusly reducing the experience gained by all the party members? #2: By expending a charm person / monster spell, a character is utilizing one of his classes resources (like a druid's animal companion ability). Accordingly, the charmed individual should not reduce the party's share in anyway... unless he continues to adventure with the party once the charm spell has worn off? Most of our party favor's #2. In our exact situation, my enchantment optimized beguiler used his staff of Charm Monster to charm a Large Red Dragon. The red dragon, along with our 3 7th level party members, and 1 6th level, is being quite helpfull. The fortunate part was that the dragon wanted to enter a chasm to search out a black dragon enemy. Our goal was to enter the chasm to explore and recover a lost dwarf. Once charmed, and its disposition adjusted to Helpful, the dragon happily agreed for us to mutually work together to accomplish our objectives. The dragon is definately proving his merit in combat, but because of this, the DM has queried whether it should also be taking an experience share as a full party member. As my character is optimized around enchantment, and did luck out with a poor will save from the DM, I am also leaning towards #2 above, but unlike an animal companion it is essentially performing against its will. Any further thoughts out there on this? Should a charmed individual gain a full party share of experience as a member of the party (thus reducing the experience being gained by all invovled), or should the Charming ability simply be deemed a class ability which should not further detriment the character, other than by loss of the spell slot? I was hoping this had been officially addressed somewhere, but it seems like it has not. [/QUOTE]
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