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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 8791595" data-attributes="member: 6779310">I have a way different, non-binary, view on outcomes... I'm quite fond of 4 outcome systems (CS, S, F, CF). I have whole heartedly embraced both FFG Star Wars and L5R flavors - the only reason I didn't like WFRP 3E was that the system was too focused upon cards + dice + markers.Any one of the following will trigger a roll to see what happens...<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Game Rules call for a roll</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">at least 10% odds of success¹</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">At least 10% chance of failure¹</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">some non-success/non-failure side effect of the roll²</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Quality of success or of failure matters</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Player states an interesting failure mode</li> </ul>I'll note as well: the PBTA mode of only 1 stated difficulty is a big negative for me.I want at least 3 explicit and 5 total difficulties (Explicit; typically Easy, Moderate, Hard. Implicit: add Automatic and Impossible.)Likewise, on dice...Single die as primary mechanic? d10, d12, d16, d20, d30, d1002dX as primary mechanic? I find 2d6, 2d8, 2d10, 2d12, 2d16, 2d20, 2d24, or 2d30 fine.1dX+1dY: I prefer that the range have X= [d4, d6, d8. d10, d12]. and wouldn't object to adding  d14, d16, d18, and d20; for Y, same range, but also no die. My second biggest issue with both Blade Runner and Twighlight: 2000 4E is that they only have 4 attribute levels [d6, d8, d10, d12]. T2K has skills run [none, d6, d8, d10, d12] while Blade Runner preview has d6 as unskilled.I don't mind player facing rolls; that should be obvious from my running Talisman Adventures and recommending Buffy/Angel/Army Of Darkness, jointly: Unisystem Lite. But I much  prefer TA over Unisystem Light specifically because I, as a GM, have things to roll, and while they don't include to-hits, they do include random encounters, NPC attack damages... [HR][/HR]1: As a general rule, I set difficulties based upon the rubrics in the game; in Traveller, I'll allow a roll with as low as 3.333% fail - <3, or >11 is still a roll. In Pendragon, due to CS/S/F/CF outcomes, until auto-crit (skill + mods >39), most actions get a roll. Highest TN was an NPC... Lancelot critically inspired to Lancefor a total >80 after all the modifiers... But the PC was 24 base and also critically inspired. Didn't go well for either. Both died. In RuneQuest, 2% fail or 1% success.[HR][/HR]2: Such as, in Talisman Adventures - Player had zero chance of success, but the roll has a only 4/6 chance of not having non-success non-failure side effects ... The kismet die on a 6 has a player boon, on a 1 has a GM boon. In the case last sunday, it was a called for roll in the adventure, so the player was rolling. They did get a 6... one other player, same situation, had to roll a nat 3 or nat 4 to fail, but rolled a nat 3... Fate point for me and failed roll.</blockquote>

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