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Does a limb provoke/take an AOO?
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<blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 2766689" data-attributes="member: 12332"><p>I think my language may have been conflicting ...</p><p></p><p>What I was saying, and what I think YOU are saying, is that by allowing AoO only on a limb reaching into a square, you're back-dooring called shots. IE "I hit him in the arm!", since the only part of the creature "in" the square you're threatening is an arm, which normally isn't a legal target.</p><p></p><p>What I added, in media res, was that WotC had ALREADY back-doored called shots in that the rules for fighting a Hydra involve unique rules on allowing Sunder attacks against the Hydra's heads. I.E. you're allowed to target JUST the head of the hydra, and to treat it like an object, at that.</p><p></p><p>My personal take on the "hitting a limb with an AoO" is that the ACTION provokes an AoO, but the AoO must be taken on the actual square(s) the creature's facing occupies at that moment. Which, I'm pretty sure, is what you're saying?</p><p></p><p>And while that makes reach quite powerful ... hey, at least the Giant is busy mauling the party tank with those untouchable Grapple attacks. Plus, if he maintains the grapple, he has to move to occupy space with the tank, and that movement provokes from the other party members nearby. AND, with 3.5 Grapple rules in place, while the giant is grappling your helpless party tank, the rogue can stand on a stepladder and do needlepoint on his kidneys.</p><p></p><p>--fje</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeapThaumaturgist, post: 2766689, member: 12332"] I think my language may have been conflicting ... What I was saying, and what I think YOU are saying, is that by allowing AoO only on a limb reaching into a square, you're back-dooring called shots. IE "I hit him in the arm!", since the only part of the creature "in" the square you're threatening is an arm, which normally isn't a legal target. What I added, in media res, was that WotC had ALREADY back-doored called shots in that the rules for fighting a Hydra involve unique rules on allowing Sunder attacks against the Hydra's heads. I.E. you're allowed to target JUST the head of the hydra, and to treat it like an object, at that. My personal take on the "hitting a limb with an AoO" is that the ACTION provokes an AoO, but the AoO must be taken on the actual square(s) the creature's facing occupies at that moment. Which, I'm pretty sure, is what you're saying? And while that makes reach quite powerful ... hey, at least the Giant is busy mauling the party tank with those untouchable Grapple attacks. Plus, if he maintains the grapple, he has to move to occupy space with the tank, and that movement provokes from the other party members nearby. AND, with 3.5 Grapple rules in place, while the giant is grappling your helpless party tank, the rogue can stand on a stepladder and do needlepoint on his kidneys. --fje [/QUOTE]
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