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<blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 2722006" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Why are you so anxious after all these years? You're no newb at this rejection gig, fusangite. You've been (by your own admission) being rejected for YEARS. What's so special about the next girl that makes the prospect of her rejecting you more than boring? I'm not suggesting that being jaded is more attractive than being anxious...wait, yes I am.</p><p></p><p>It falls well within the Teflon Billy rules that if your approach to a woman says that you really don't much give a rip whether she shows interest or not, your attractiveness goes up by an order of magnitude. Maybe you're simply too in awe of your targets (or the image of them that you've built up in your mind) to pull this off. If so then your solution is simple. You need to set your sights lower.</p><p></p><p>I've often said (though rarely around my wife) that if I had it to do all over again, I'd have dated (and probably slept with) a lot more marginally attractive girls when I was back in high school. I've learned about myself as I've gotten older that I find most women attractive. Not all girls are knockouts but I tend to see their best features and not notice their less attractive ones so much.</p><p></p><p>Back in the day, I would fixate on these beautiful, unobtainable girls for the longest time. I had no clue that so many "average" girls were sitting home alone on Friday nights being miserable and desperate (like me). And horny (like me). What an amazing untapped (ahem) resource!</p><p></p><p>My point is this: If you wish to lower your percentage of rejection (from where it stands presently at 100%) then approach women who aren't so used to rejecting guys. Were I in your position I'd probably join a dating service. Go on bunches of dates. Go until it's boring and you dread the next one. Voila! You've achieved desensitization! You no longer give a damn and suddenly you become a hot item.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think I said that it was guaranteed to pay off. Only that if you don't try then it's guaranteed NOT to pay off.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The lottery thing was not a strawman so much as an analogy. My point is there are (at least) two ways to get rich: Work for it or win the lottery. One method has a higher rate of success than the other.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For the record, I feel very invested in your success or failure because you were one of my favorite ENWorlders before I met you and meeting you at GenCon only made me like you more. And that's not just because you let me help you kill that bottle of Scotch. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rel, post: 2722006, member: 99"] Why are you so anxious after all these years? You're no newb at this rejection gig, fusangite. You've been (by your own admission) being rejected for YEARS. What's so special about the next girl that makes the prospect of her rejecting you more than boring? I'm not suggesting that being jaded is more attractive than being anxious...wait, yes I am. It falls well within the Teflon Billy rules that if your approach to a woman says that you really don't much give a rip whether she shows interest or not, your attractiveness goes up by an order of magnitude. Maybe you're simply too in awe of your targets (or the image of them that you've built up in your mind) to pull this off. If so then your solution is simple. You need to set your sights lower. I've often said (though rarely around my wife) that if I had it to do all over again, I'd have dated (and probably slept with) a lot more marginally attractive girls when I was back in high school. I've learned about myself as I've gotten older that I find most women attractive. Not all girls are knockouts but I tend to see their best features and not notice their less attractive ones so much. Back in the day, I would fixate on these beautiful, unobtainable girls for the longest time. I had no clue that so many "average" girls were sitting home alone on Friday nights being miserable and desperate (like me). And horny (like me). What an amazing untapped (ahem) resource! My point is this: If you wish to lower your percentage of rejection (from where it stands presently at 100%) then approach women who aren't so used to rejecting guys. Were I in your position I'd probably join a dating service. Go on bunches of dates. Go until it's boring and you dread the next one. Voila! You've achieved desensitization! You no longer give a damn and suddenly you become a hot item. I don't think I said that it was guaranteed to pay off. Only that if you don't try then it's guaranteed NOT to pay off. The lottery thing was not a strawman so much as an analogy. My point is there are (at least) two ways to get rich: Work for it or win the lottery. One method has a higher rate of success than the other. For the record, I feel very invested in your success or failure because you were one of my favorite ENWorlders before I met you and meeting you at GenCon only made me like you more. And that's not just because you let me help you kill that bottle of Scotch. ;) [/QUOTE]
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