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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WhimsyTheFae" data-source="post: 2722624" data-attributes="member: 8964">I have to agree here.  I used to be a lap dog chasing girls as if they were goddesses (in fact, my wife still makes fun of me about the girl who I was chasing when she first noticed me).  Many times, the woman will not let you know that they are interested.  My wife is a perfect example of that.  I flirted with her and she reacted in the same way as many women who I thought were interested, but refused my advances (they were either being nice or liked me as a friend).  So, if I hadn't taken a chance at being shot down, I would never have dated and eventually married my wife.So, go out - flirt - have fun - ask for a phone number - ask if she wants something to eat - ask if she wants to dance (if you can dance, that is, I avoid that one) - ask if she wants to shoot pool.  Whatever, just try and socialize.  Going out to eat is often safe type of initial date (it doesn't even have to be called a date).  It gives you a chance to get to know her and her to get to know you, but keeps you in a safe public place (some women don't want to go on certain dates with people that they just meet).  If things go well, then you can pursue a relationship.  If things don't go well, then you can learn from the experience - did you do something wrong, was she the problem, was there no connection, etc.Good Luck and Keep Your Chin Up -  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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