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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 2724359" data-attributes="member: 13098"><p>Aaron,</p><p>I proposed to my wife for one solid reason. We don't <strong><em>need</em></strong> each other. We want to spend our time together and we enjoy ourselves, as well as each other. </p><p></p><p>Getting a girlfriend/spouse/whatever isn't going to 'fix' anything for you. I will reiterate what has already been said several times. You must be confident and comfortable with yourself before you go any further.</p><p></p><p>So how do you get confident? Hey man, play to your strengths. You know what you do well. So do them well! Does that get you in contact with women? Probably not. The point is you need to know what your self value is before you can hope that others will appreciate it. Because, and trust me on this, you do have self value. You just aren't allowing yourself to see it right now. </p><p></p><p>Take off the blinders, get help if you are depressed, find your groove and understand that you bring something to the world. Then understand that you don't <em>need</em> anybody else to get through life. Do you want somebody else to share life with? Sure you do. But it isn't a requirement. </p><p></p><p>Now, once you understand that you have value and you are a contributor to the world in general, you will understand why people should listen to you. I don't know enough about you to tell you what this is. But even if I could, it would just be words until you believe it yourself. </p><p></p><p>Knowing that, realize that women are people. They aren't objects, they aren't unattainable, they aren't all for you. Like all people, you won't mesh with all of them. In the worst case scenario, you ask out a girl and learn that she wasn't as comaptible with you as you had thought she might be. In the best case, you find somebody as interesting as you that you get along with wonderfully. </p><p></p><p>Where do you meet women? Well, everywhere really. But you might want to expand out your hobbies a bit to diversify. I would suggest taking a dance class. Yeah, I know that sounds odd and maybe stupid. But let me explain. </p><p></p><p>In a dance class, you will be <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">getting exercise</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gaining confidence in a new skill</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">forced to interact with many new people, most notably women</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">have an enforced social agenda on a regular basis</li> </ul><p>In short, you will be exercising and practising social skills. You will be gaining confidence and you will even be able to go out dancing with girls during and after the classes. Even if you are just a mediocre dancer, you can do just fine. Many girls like to dance. But when you say "Let's go out dancing, I know this great place that plays samba music.", most girls will be surprised and impressed that you know how to samba. </p><p></p><p>Of course, you can apply the same general idea to different activities. The point is get out and <em>do</em> something to improve your life, have fun doing it, and if you find somebody to have a relationship with, that's great too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BSF, post: 2724359, member: 13098"] Aaron, I proposed to my wife for one solid reason. We don't [b][i]need[/i][/b] each other. We want to spend our time together and we enjoy ourselves, as well as each other. Getting a girlfriend/spouse/whatever isn't going to 'fix' anything for you. I will reiterate what has already been said several times. You must be confident and comfortable with yourself before you go any further. So how do you get confident? Hey man, play to your strengths. You know what you do well. So do them well! Does that get you in contact with women? Probably not. The point is you need to know what your self value is before you can hope that others will appreciate it. Because, and trust me on this, you do have self value. You just aren't allowing yourself to see it right now. Take off the blinders, get help if you are depressed, find your groove and understand that you bring something to the world. Then understand that you don't [i]need[/i] anybody else to get through life. Do you want somebody else to share life with? Sure you do. But it isn't a requirement. Now, once you understand that you have value and you are a contributor to the world in general, you will understand why people should listen to you. I don't know enough about you to tell you what this is. But even if I could, it would just be words until you believe it yourself. Knowing that, realize that women are people. They aren't objects, they aren't unattainable, they aren't all for you. Like all people, you won't mesh with all of them. In the worst case scenario, you ask out a girl and learn that she wasn't as comaptible with you as you had thought she might be. In the best case, you find somebody as interesting as you that you get along with wonderfully. Where do you meet women? Well, everywhere really. But you might want to expand out your hobbies a bit to diversify. I would suggest taking a dance class. Yeah, I know that sounds odd and maybe stupid. But let me explain. In a dance class, you will be [list] [*]getting exercise [*]gaining confidence in a new skill [*]forced to interact with many new people, most notably women [*]have an enforced social agenda on a regular basis [/list] In short, you will be exercising and practising social skills. You will be gaining confidence and you will even be able to go out dancing with girls during and after the classes. Even if you are just a mediocre dancer, you can do just fine. Many girls like to dance. But when you say "Let's go out dancing, I know this great place that plays samba music.", most girls will be surprised and impressed that you know how to samba. Of course, you can apply the same general idea to different activities. The point is get out and [i]do[/i] something to improve your life, have fun doing it, and if you find somebody to have a relationship with, that's great too. [/QUOTE]
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