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<blockquote data-quote="Teflon Billy" data-source="post: 2727374" data-attributes="member: 264"><p>Well, as I mentioned above, it <em>is</em> work towards a goal, but there's really no reason to think of it that way man.</p><p></p><p>First, it will get you some dating experience. This is crucial to your development. Dating is like anything esle: if you practice you will likley get better. the better date you are, the better a chance you have of loosening up and attracting girls.</p><p></p><p>Worried about <em>her</em> feelings? Good. That means you are human.</p><p></p><p>But really, there is no need to be worried. You don't need to make your reasons for dating her common knowledge, neither do you need to "Fake" anything. Just act like you want to (or think you should) on a date. Try and have fun.</p><p></p><p>I'm not advocating just showing up and going through the motions. <em>Date</em> this girl. go out, enjoy yourself if you feel so inclined<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The truth of the matter is that you are trying to get several girls who are slightly better looking than this one to think "Damn, I'm better than her, why isn't he with me?"</p><p></p><p>When and if that happens, repeat the process, only with girls who are slightly better than your new one.</p><p></p><p>And so on, until you have a girl who is pretty much in your league.</p><p></p><p>However--and pay attention here--<em>none</em> of this advice should necessitate you not giving any kind of "boyfriend value" back to the girl you are dating. Hold her hand in public, help her on with her coat, listen to her...</p><p></p><p>Just becasue she is a means to an end doesn't in any way mean that you should be behaving any differently than you will with the next girl up the ladder.</p><p></p><p>She will likely be happy to be dating you.</p><p></p><p>You think you have low self esteem? Low self-worth? Low value placed on you by an uncaring culture?</p><p></p><p>Measure it against that of a fat girl in North America.</p><p></p><p>You lose<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>In fact, it's not even close.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Teflon Billy, post: 2727374, member: 264"] Well, as I mentioned above, it [i]is[/i] work towards a goal, but there's really no reason to think of it that way man. First, it will get you some dating experience. This is crucial to your development. Dating is like anything esle: if you practice you will likley get better. the better date you are, the better a chance you have of loosening up and attracting girls. Worried about [i]her[/i] feelings? Good. That means you are human. But really, there is no need to be worried. You don't need to make your reasons for dating her common knowledge, neither do you need to "Fake" anything. Just act like you want to (or think you should) on a date. Try and have fun. I'm not advocating just showing up and going through the motions. [i]Date[/i] this girl. go out, enjoy yourself if you feel so inclined:) The truth of the matter is that you are trying to get several girls who are slightly better looking than this one to think "Damn, I'm better than her, why isn't he with me?" When and if that happens, repeat the process, only with girls who are slightly better than your new one. And so on, until you have a girl who is pretty much in your league. However--and pay attention here--[i]none[/i] of this advice should necessitate you not giving any kind of "boyfriend value" back to the girl you are dating. Hold her hand in public, help her on with her coat, listen to her... Just becasue she is a means to an end doesn't in any way mean that you should be behaving any differently than you will with the next girl up the ladder. She will likely be happy to be dating you. You think you have low self esteem? Low self-worth? Low value placed on you by an uncaring culture? Measure it against that of a fat girl in North America. You lose:) In fact, it's not even close. [/QUOTE]
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