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<blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 2729305" data-attributes="member: 6390"><p>That right there tells me something. If you have the money for new clothing, and aren't buying it, it can be because you don't feel that you are worth it. (A common sign of long term depression that I've noticed, but probably isn't listed any where)</p><p></p><p>Start small, 2 pair of jeans, 2 T shirts, 2 button up shirts, 1 pair of slacks, 1 dress shirt, a tie.</p><p></p><p>Don't get the latest fashions in jeans, don't get T-shirts with logo's, designs, slogans. Go for 1 white one to wear under the button up shirts, one of another color. Grab two different colored T-shirts and ask the lady who works in the department better suits your coloring. Ask her if the color of the jeans fits your coloring, and ask if the button up shirts go with both the pants and your coloration. (I can't wear brown or green) With the slacks, go for black, and a dark gray dress shirt, and a tie that the sales lady thinks fits. Also purchase two flannel shirts, one blue, the other another dark color.</p><p></p><p>May I suggest Ross as the clothing store if your budget is tight.</p><p></p><p>Get a belt from either the Harley Davidson store, or from Hot Topic, in addition to two normal belts.</p><p></p><p>Buy a set of boots, buy a set of dress shoes.</p><p></p><p>Buy black socks for the DRESS SHOES and new socks. Those old socks need to go.</p><p></p><p>Get rid of your old underwear. Buy yourself jockey shorts. Get one or two plaid patterened one, then treat yourself to a pair of Homer Simpson or Spongebob ones. Wear those when the morning starts out like crap.</p><p></p><p>Others here can probably give you hotter fashion tips, but the above is a good set of everyday stuff.</p><p></p><p>And you don't have to wait for a job interview or something to dress in slacks, dress shirt, and tie. Sometimes just going grocery shopping or somewhere with a friend, like the mall, it can be nice and make you feel better about yourself if you dress up.</p><p></p><p></p><p>NO! *whap* BAD GRASSHOPPER! NO! *whap*</p><p></p><p>YOU ARE NOT THEM!</p><p></p><p>Get what looks good on YOU!</p><p></p><p>Keep them. Buy a speedwalking outfit. Sweats and a T-shirt work.</p><p></p><p></p><p>NO! *whap* BAD GRASSHOPPER! NO! *whap*</p><p></p><p>Old spice is worn by old guys, married goons like me, or bought for dad's by kids.</p><p></p><p>I've used the same aftershave for 20 years, but that's me. But Old Spice? YUCK! The girls I know call it "Eude de Loser"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK. Here's some advice.</p><p></p><p>Wear one of your old T-shirts. Go jogging. Do NOT wash it. Change, shower, use soap. (Dial is always a good beginners choice. not perfumey or fancy, but straight forward clean. Women love a man who smells clean) Get dressed decent. Put sweaty smelling shirt in ziplock bag so as not to offend others. Go to a department store.</p><p></p><p>On your hunt for new clothing, ask the sales girl to follow you to the aftershave/deoderant section. Explain that you are making sure that your body chemistry reacts correctly with the deodorant/body spray/after shave.</p><p></p><p>Spritz some on a sweaty spot on the shirt. Count to 10. Sniff. Watch the girl's face for those 10 seconds. If she wrinkles her nose, it's not the right one.</p><p></p><p>Try several different. Despite the commercials, Axe is pretty good. I sweat like a horse and smell like a Puma after I excersize or on a hot day, and Axe keeps me from smelling like I just got back from lion taming.</p><p></p><p>Choose one that smells OK. If you can ramp up the courage, ask her how things smell.</p><p></p><p>Now, for the biggest advice...</p><p></p><p>Aftershave is one thing, but cologne/body spray is another...</p><p></p><p>The commercials for the body spray show people just slathering it on like an exterminator trying to get rid of an ant infestation. That's incorrect.</p><p></p><p>Spray above the head and in front of you one spritz. Step through the cloud.</p><p></p><p>There, that's enough cologne.</p><p></p><p>Body spray: Quick hits to each armpit, bottom of the feet. Quick spray across the butt cheeks. Maybe a hit across the back if your back gets sweaty. If you can count out loud to two, you've sprayed too long.</p><p></p><p>NEVER use it to cover up body odor. Always apply after a shower, before putting on CLEAN clothing.</p><p></p><p>Make sure that the shower soap/gel, shampoo, laundry soap you use, dryer sheets you use, aftershave, cologne, body spray you use COMPLIMENT ONE ANOTHER! </p><p></p><p>I know some things make sets, check into those.</p><p></p><p>Flat top. Go to the barber, tell them you want a flat top. It's easy to maintain, and looks right.</p><p></p><p>Other than that, I have no clue. My hair has been short all my life.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Good, you're already ahead of many, many socially defunct people.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No trouble, I'm waiting for the mailman and for my TV show to come on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>-------------EDIT-----------</p><p></p><p>Funny as this may sounds, you aren't the first person I've helped. You should see some of the social misfits I ended up as room mates with, or I got handed in my squad. There was plenty of guys I took the PX and gave basic guidelines on hygiene and dressing right too.</p><p></p><p>Nothing worse than a 19 year old man who doesn't even know how to dress himself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ralts Bloodthorne, post: 2729305, member: 6390"] That right there tells me something. If you have the money for new clothing, and aren't buying it, it can be because you don't feel that you are worth it. (A common sign of long term depression that I've noticed, but probably isn't listed any where) Start small, 2 pair of jeans, 2 T shirts, 2 button up shirts, 1 pair of slacks, 1 dress shirt, a tie. Don't get the latest fashions in jeans, don't get T-shirts with logo's, designs, slogans. Go for 1 white one to wear under the button up shirts, one of another color. Grab two different colored T-shirts and ask the lady who works in the department better suits your coloring. Ask her if the color of the jeans fits your coloring, and ask if the button up shirts go with both the pants and your coloration. (I can't wear brown or green) With the slacks, go for black, and a dark gray dress shirt, and a tie that the sales lady thinks fits. Also purchase two flannel shirts, one blue, the other another dark color. May I suggest Ross as the clothing store if your budget is tight. Get a belt from either the Harley Davidson store, or from Hot Topic, in addition to two normal belts. Buy a set of boots, buy a set of dress shoes. Buy black socks for the DRESS SHOES and new socks. Those old socks need to go. Get rid of your old underwear. Buy yourself jockey shorts. Get one or two plaid patterened one, then treat yourself to a pair of Homer Simpson or Spongebob ones. Wear those when the morning starts out like crap. Others here can probably give you hotter fashion tips, but the above is a good set of everyday stuff. And you don't have to wait for a job interview or something to dress in slacks, dress shirt, and tie. Sometimes just going grocery shopping or somewhere with a friend, like the mall, it can be nice and make you feel better about yourself if you dress up. NO! *whap* BAD GRASSHOPPER! NO! *whap* YOU ARE NOT THEM! Get what looks good on YOU! Keep them. Buy a speedwalking outfit. Sweats and a T-shirt work. NO! *whap* BAD GRASSHOPPER! NO! *whap* Old spice is worn by old guys, married goons like me, or bought for dad's by kids. I've used the same aftershave for 20 years, but that's me. But Old Spice? YUCK! The girls I know call it "Eude de Loser" OK. Here's some advice. Wear one of your old T-shirts. Go jogging. Do NOT wash it. Change, shower, use soap. (Dial is always a good beginners choice. not perfumey or fancy, but straight forward clean. Women love a man who smells clean) Get dressed decent. Put sweaty smelling shirt in ziplock bag so as not to offend others. Go to a department store. On your hunt for new clothing, ask the sales girl to follow you to the aftershave/deoderant section. Explain that you are making sure that your body chemistry reacts correctly with the deodorant/body spray/after shave. Spritz some on a sweaty spot on the shirt. Count to 10. Sniff. Watch the girl's face for those 10 seconds. If she wrinkles her nose, it's not the right one. Try several different. Despite the commercials, Axe is pretty good. I sweat like a horse and smell like a Puma after I excersize or on a hot day, and Axe keeps me from smelling like I just got back from lion taming. Choose one that smells OK. If you can ramp up the courage, ask her how things smell. Now, for the biggest advice... Aftershave is one thing, but cologne/body spray is another... The commercials for the body spray show people just slathering it on like an exterminator trying to get rid of an ant infestation. That's incorrect. Spray above the head and in front of you one spritz. Step through the cloud. There, that's enough cologne. Body spray: Quick hits to each armpit, bottom of the feet. Quick spray across the butt cheeks. Maybe a hit across the back if your back gets sweaty. If you can count out loud to two, you've sprayed too long. NEVER use it to cover up body odor. Always apply after a shower, before putting on CLEAN clothing. Make sure that the shower soap/gel, shampoo, laundry soap you use, dryer sheets you use, aftershave, cologne, body spray you use COMPLIMENT ONE ANOTHER! I know some things make sets, check into those. Flat top. Go to the barber, tell them you want a flat top. It's easy to maintain, and looks right. Other than that, I have no clue. My hair has been short all my life. Good, you're already ahead of many, many socially defunct people. No trouble, I'm waiting for the mailman and for my TV show to come on. -------------EDIT----------- Funny as this may sounds, you aren't the first person I've helped. You should see some of the social misfits I ended up as room mates with, or I got handed in my squad. There was plenty of guys I took the PX and gave basic guidelines on hygiene and dressing right too. Nothing worse than a 19 year old man who doesn't even know how to dress himself. [/QUOTE]
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