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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1727775" data-attributes="member: 707">Well, my point was to draw attention to another valid rules reason for the &quot;lose PrC if you lose the prereqs&quot; rule.&nbsp; There are at least two abuses, mentioned in this thread, that are thus stymied.Sure you can say &quot;oh, I'd just hand-wave it as a DM, or if it got bad disallow it,&quot; but that doesn't make the reason the core rules adopted the stance any less valid.&nbsp; They're trying to build a balanced game without cheesy exploits, rather than leave the DM to his own devices when it comes to finding and disallowing each one as a player tries it on him. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As far as:...sure, trading out Iron Will may be painful.&nbsp; But those aren't the feats I'm talking about.&nbsp; Endurance.&nbsp; Run.&nbsp; Toughness.&nbsp; Spell Focus: Conjuration.&nbsp; Spell Focus: Divination.&nbsp; etc. etc.&nbsp; There are a lot of PrC's that are built with specifically weak feats as prereqs, to balanced particularly powerful abilities in the class.&nbsp; You pay an opportunity cost in feats to gain the powers of the class.&nbsp; Allowing one to swap out all the feats after gaining the prize unbalances these classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1727775, member: 707"] Well, my point was to draw attention to another valid rules reason for the "lose PrC if you lose the prereqs" rule. There are at least two abuses, mentioned in this thread, that are thus stymied. Sure you can say "oh, I'd just hand-wave it as a DM, or if it got bad disallow it," but that doesn't make the reason the core rules adopted the stance any less valid. They're trying to build a balanced game without cheesy exploits, rather than leave the DM to his own devices when it comes to finding and disallowing each one as a player tries it on him. ;) As far as:...sure, trading out Iron Will may be painful. But those aren't the feats I'm talking about. Endurance. Run. Toughness. Spell Focus: Conjuration. Spell Focus: Divination. etc. etc. There are a lot of PrC's that are built with specifically weak feats as prereqs, to balanced particularly powerful abilities in the class. You pay an opportunity cost in feats to gain the powers of the class. Allowing one to swap out all the feats after gaining the prize unbalances these classes. [/QUOTE]

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