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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 1725568" data-attributes="member: 16285">You know that you are misreading this right?However, the casting time of a spell is the time required to activate the same power in an item  Which means that the time it takes to cast the spell is the time it takes to activate the power in an item.  That is the time it takes to activate the item and not that the time it takes to activate the item changes based on the the castign time of the spell.  See the text below to see if it helps clear up where I'm coming from on this.  DMG pg 238 “Activating a scroll requires reading the spell from the scroll. The character must be able to see and read the writing on the scroll.”DMG pg 213 “Spell Completion: . . . .Activating a spell completion item is a standard action that provokes an attack of opportunity exactly like casting a spell does.”The description for using magic items specifies (DMG pg 213) “Activating a magic item is standard action unless the item description indicates otherwise.  However, the casting time of a spell is the time required to activate the same power in an item, whether it’s a scroll, a wand, or a pair of boots, unless the item description specifically states otherwise.”Note that under the following listings it lists the activation time as a standard action;Spell completion (includes scrolls)Spell trigger (includes wands)Command Word (includes boots that aren't use-activated)The effect of the spell is not done until after the item is activated.  Quicken Spell affects the actual casting of the spell vice its effects.  IMO metamagic scrolls can be made, e.g. maximize spell, enlarge spell, etc. since the spell's effects are altered but not Quicken Spell.  This is similar as to why a spontaneous caster can not cast a Quickened Spell, unless they have a feat that allows them to memorize the spell instead of spontaneously casting it.</blockquote>

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