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<blockquote data-quote="ceiling90" data-source="post: 5591744" data-attributes="member: 82284"><p>For me, and the people I tend to game with, unless the setting has robust gods, they're kinda afterthoughts. Someone might pick a cleric or another Divine class and try play the Proselytizer. Most of the other characters and player don't think about it. </p><p></p><p>The only time I remember gods having effects in a game I played, other than so and so god event happened so now we're adventuring type back story; was in Iron Kingdoms with very defined and very active gods.</p><p></p><p>But as for other thoughts:</p><p>@ Colmarr: I never thought about it, in the terms of Psionics vs Divine when there's a distinct lack of gods. I'd probably allow both, in that Psionics isn't an issue of belief, it would be a quantifiable noted phenomenon that is intrinsic to the power of the mind and body. Divine is powered by Belief and Faith, Belief in the goodness of men and the faith that they will carry through and the like.</p><p></p><p>[MENTION=71571]DracoSuave[/MENTION]: That's true in Eberron, where many of the "religions" aren't entirely based on gods, but are based on Primal basis ie pantheism, nature spirits and ancestral worship. Except that the Silver Flame people, I always get the feel that they're this crazy paramilitary organization with a strong dose of cult flare. I'm not entirely sure if the 6 in Eberron is corporal, or any of the other actual gods presented.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I do see that religious organizations will happen, regardless if the gods are corporal and active; that's a whole different issue from walking, talking, rough and tumble gods actually wandering the "earth". Or gods whose birth/death has any actual effect on the living earth. </p><p></p><p>I think really, is that; like I mentioned, Gods as corporal things are sort of an afterthought for me. The organizations with religious overtones aren't though. I am currently contemplating the idea of a sentient planet or sentient space station of the like. I'm also contemplating the idea of Corporal Gods who aren't much better than their followers, in the vein of American Gods or the Hogfather.</p><p></p><p>The other thoughts is that, belief systems based on non-god concepts: nature spirits, ancestors, and the like seem to be more a function on the belief system and less about a god. So to me, they're a complete function on the organization or history, though it could be argued that may function as a diefic pantheon. </p><p></p><p>Thanks, everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ceiling90, post: 5591744, member: 82284"] For me, and the people I tend to game with, unless the setting has robust gods, they're kinda afterthoughts. Someone might pick a cleric or another Divine class and try play the Proselytizer. Most of the other characters and player don't think about it. The only time I remember gods having effects in a game I played, other than so and so god event happened so now we're adventuring type back story; was in Iron Kingdoms with very defined and very active gods. But as for other thoughts: @ Colmarr: I never thought about it, in the terms of Psionics vs Divine when there's a distinct lack of gods. I'd probably allow both, in that Psionics isn't an issue of belief, it would be a quantifiable noted phenomenon that is intrinsic to the power of the mind and body. Divine is powered by Belief and Faith, Belief in the goodness of men and the faith that they will carry through and the like. [MENTION=71571]DracoSuave[/MENTION]: That's true in Eberron, where many of the "religions" aren't entirely based on gods, but are based on Primal basis ie pantheism, nature spirits and ancestral worship. Except that the Silver Flame people, I always get the feel that they're this crazy paramilitary organization with a strong dose of cult flare. I'm not entirely sure if the 6 in Eberron is corporal, or any of the other actual gods presented. I mean, I do see that religious organizations will happen, regardless if the gods are corporal and active; that's a whole different issue from walking, talking, rough and tumble gods actually wandering the "earth". Or gods whose birth/death has any actual effect on the living earth. I think really, is that; like I mentioned, Gods as corporal things are sort of an afterthought for me. The organizations with religious overtones aren't though. I am currently contemplating the idea of a sentient planet or sentient space station of the like. I'm also contemplating the idea of Corporal Gods who aren't much better than their followers, in the vein of American Gods or the Hogfather. The other thoughts is that, belief systems based on non-god concepts: nature spirits, ancestors, and the like seem to be more a function on the belief system and less about a god. So to me, they're a complete function on the organization or history, though it could be argued that may function as a diefic pantheon. Thanks, everyone. [/QUOTE]
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