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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2047810" data-attributes="member: 2011">Everything you said here is irrelevant to the discussion.We have NO definition of what force is in the game. We have some hints like it affects the ethereal plane normally, but we do not know what it actually is.The Wall of Force spell does not state that it stops material objects. It does not state that it stops supernatural effects. It does not state that it stops extraordinary abilities.Hence, it does not stop any of these unless it states that it does.It does state that it stops certain effects: spells (with the exception of teleporting types), material / ethereal creatures, and breath weapons.Period.Now, if you have some rules that indicate exactly what force is and what it stops, please post them. I could not find any such rules.And, we have other protective examples of force like Mage Armor which does NOT stop material objects, it merely hinders them.So, we have to go with what is written in the Wall of Force spell unless we have force rules to guide us otherwise.</blockquote>