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Does a Way of Mercy Monk (11th level) obsolete a Life Cleric?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8318974" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>So for pure fun, lets look at a few raw numbers just for comparison.</p><p></p><p>so for a mercy monk actually going for the healing crown, I think we can assume they would have a weaker dex and instead focus on their wisdom, for a 20 wisdom, just as the life cleric would. I will also assume our standard 4 member party, which is important for our mass heals. I am going to ignore the heal itself bonus, but I will include the cleric as a person in the mass heals to compensate.</p><p></p><p><strong>Available Healing</strong></p><p>So a mercy monk would heal 2d8 + 10 per ki, or 209 healing per short rest.</p><p></p><p>Lets look at the life cleric.</p><p></p><p>2 Channel Divinity (55 x 2 = 110)</p><p>1 6th - Heal (78)</p><p>2 5th - Mass Cure Wounds (102 x 2 = 204)</p><p>3 4th - Cure Wounds (29 x 3 = 87)</p><p>3 3rd - Cure Wounds (23.5 x 3 = 70.5)</p><p>3 2nd - Cure Wounds (18 x 3 = 54)</p><p>4 1st - Cure Wounds (12.5 x 4 = 50)</p><p></p><p>653.4 healing per day, +110 healing per short rest.</p><p></p><p><strong>Total Healing (0 short rest)</strong></p><p>Mercy Monk: 209 healing</p><p>Life: 653.4 healing</p><p></p><p><strong>Total Healing (1 short rest)</strong></p><p>Mercy Monk: 418 healing</p><p>Life Cleric: 763.4 healing</p><p></p><p><strong>Total Healing (2 short rests)</strong></p><p>Mercy: 627 healing</p><p>Life: 873.4</p><p></p><p>So in terms of "general amount of healing".... the life cleric delivers a good bit more than the monk.</p><p></p><p><strong>Power Healing</strong></p><p>Mercy Monk: 19 healing per round.</p><p></p><p>Life Cleric: (Heal) 78 healing</p><p>Life Cleric: (Channel Divinity) 55 healing</p><p>Life Cleric: (Cure Wounds 4th + Beacon of Hope) 43 healing</p><p></p><p>So in emergency scenarios when you need a big single heal, the life cleric has several ways to deliver more powerful individual heals than the mercy monk.</p><p></p><p><strong>Condition Removal</strong></p><p>Mercy: Remove two conditions from Blinded, deafened, diseased, paralyzed, poisoned, or stunned per 1 Ki spent.</p><p></p><p>Life (Heal): blindness, deafness, disease (same as lesser restoration but all at once).</p><p>Life (Greater Restoration): Exhaustion (one level), Charmed, Petrified, Curse, reduction in ability score, reduction in hitpoint maximum</p><p>Life (Lesser Restoration): blinded, deafened, disease, paralyzed, poisoned</p><p></p><p>The Life Cleric can handle a few exotic conditions the mercy monk can't. The Mercy monk can handle some of the "core conditions" very easily and with a minimal cost. Further, the monk can restore two conditions a round with 1 ki....while the life cleric can only handle 1 person at a time....and other than the Heal spell only 1 condition at a time.</p><p></p><p>While the life cleric is certainly useful when the exotic conditions come around, the mercy monk is going to be generally more useful at dealing with conditions, and doesn't have to sacrifice any healing to do it.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Overall: </strong>I think the Mercy monk is a better "condition remover" than the life cleric, but when it comes to raw healing power, the life cleric is still a good bit better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8318974, member: 5889"] So for pure fun, lets look at a few raw numbers just for comparison. so for a mercy monk actually going for the healing crown, I think we can assume they would have a weaker dex and instead focus on their wisdom, for a 20 wisdom, just as the life cleric would. I will also assume our standard 4 member party, which is important for our mass heals. I am going to ignore the heal itself bonus, but I will include the cleric as a person in the mass heals to compensate. [B]Available Healing[/B] So a mercy monk would heal 2d8 + 10 per ki, or 209 healing per short rest. Lets look at the life cleric. 2 Channel Divinity (55 x 2 = 110) 1 6th - Heal (78) 2 5th - Mass Cure Wounds (102 x 2 = 204) 3 4th - Cure Wounds (29 x 3 = 87) 3 3rd - Cure Wounds (23.5 x 3 = 70.5) 3 2nd - Cure Wounds (18 x 3 = 54) 4 1st - Cure Wounds (12.5 x 4 = 50) 653.4 healing per day, +110 healing per short rest. [B]Total Healing (0 short rest)[/B] Mercy Monk: 209 healing Life: 653.4 healing [B]Total Healing (1 short rest)[/B] Mercy Monk: 418 healing Life Cleric: 763.4 healing [B]Total Healing (2 short rests)[/B] Mercy: 627 healing Life: 873.4 So in terms of "general amount of healing".... the life cleric delivers a good bit more than the monk. [B]Power Healing[/B] Mercy Monk: 19 healing per round. Life Cleric: (Heal) 78 healing Life Cleric: (Channel Divinity) 55 healing Life Cleric: (Cure Wounds 4th + Beacon of Hope) 43 healing So in emergency scenarios when you need a big single heal, the life cleric has several ways to deliver more powerful individual heals than the mercy monk. [B]Condition Removal[/B] Mercy: Remove two conditions from Blinded, deafened, diseased, paralyzed, poisoned, or stunned per 1 Ki spent. Life (Heal): blindness, deafness, disease (same as lesser restoration but all at once). Life (Greater Restoration): Exhaustion (one level), Charmed, Petrified, Curse, reduction in ability score, reduction in hitpoint maximum Life (Lesser Restoration): blinded, deafened, disease, paralyzed, poisoned The Life Cleric can handle a few exotic conditions the mercy monk can't. The Mercy monk can handle some of the "core conditions" very easily and with a minimal cost. Further, the monk can restore two conditions a round with 1 ki....while the life cleric can only handle 1 person at a time....and other than the Heal spell only 1 condition at a time. While the life cleric is certainly useful when the exotic conditions come around, the mercy monk is going to be generally more useful at dealing with conditions, and doesn't have to sacrifice any healing to do it. [B]Overall: [/B]I think the Mercy monk is a better "condition remover" than the life cleric, but when it comes to raw healing power, the life cleric is still a good bit better. [/QUOTE]
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