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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 5787887" data-attributes="member: 17106">*At the moment, there is no level 0.*There should be and have been a couple of levels of relative weakness, not just one token level.*I don't understand why making the gritty part level 1 is such a problem. It seems to me that wanting it not to be level 1 seems to be not only wanting to get your preference but to make sure said preference is foisted on as many people as possible even if they don't share that preference.For this reason, it makes more sense to spread the different 'tiers' of the game out over more levels than it does to take the low levels and squash them into a new 0th level.***This is another good point. With a death window that has historically been greater than the hp of many low-level characters, it's common to get knocked into negatives but still pretty rare to actually die. Increasing 1st level hp would be one of those cases of fixing a problem that didn't exist in the first place. Lethality is pretty low even in 'gritty' D&D.</blockquote>