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<blockquote data-quote="The Green Adam" data-source="post: 4340421" data-attributes="member: 50821"><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">I love the art of the amazing Tony Diterlizzi...but I don't like Tiefs or Dragonborn. I must admit though...if they still looked as they do above I might be more inclined to include Tiefs as at least they would retain a vaguely medieval, folkloric appearence. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">My problem with the two new species are:</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">A) Dungeons & Dragons has become increasing distant from its medieval fantasy origins and these creatures just seem to reinforce that. I feel the starter book should have a more basic array of creatures and said beings should be a bit more classic. After looking through the 4E Player's Handbook, a non-gamer female friend said to me, "Are there any Dragons or Dungeons in this game? This looks like another planet. Its like Star Wars."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">I imagine she is one of the people that WotC/Hasbro is trying to market to...a creative and intelligent young professional who doesn't buy their product but might. She is a history buff and a fan of classic literature but sees nothing of the mass market elements she expects to see that might interest her. It doesn't look like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. It looks weird and confusing. She's in consulting and marketing herself btw. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">On the subject, I thought fantasy RPGs did better then SF ones because they are based on a recognizable past we can all reference the same way.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">Of course this choice of a change in atmosphere is directly related to...</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">B) The art. I just don't like it that much but specifically I'm not a big fan of the designs of these two creatures. The Dragonborn do not look like Draogn Men to me but rather evoke images of Predator and D'Argo from Farscape. The Tiefling of late is a different colored Draenai. Not interesting to me at all as I've seen it before.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">Maybe the next PHB will contain more species I can get a handle on, though I'm sort of expecting Warforged, Klingons and beings made of pure magical energy. Neat yes but not what I'm looking for. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ffffff">AD</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Green Adam, post: 4340421, member: 50821"] [COLOR=white][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]I love the art of the amazing Tony Diterlizzi...but I don't like Tiefs or Dragonborn. I must admit though...if they still looked as they do above I might be more inclined to include Tiefs as at least they would retain a vaguely medieval, folkloric appearence. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]My problem with the two new species are:[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]A) Dungeons & Dragons has become increasing distant from its medieval fantasy origins and these creatures just seem to reinforce that. I feel the starter book should have a more basic array of creatures and said beings should be a bit more classic. After looking through the 4E Player's Handbook, a non-gamer female friend said to me, "Are there any Dragons or Dungeons in this game? This looks like another planet. Its like Star Wars."[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]I imagine she is one of the people that WotC/Hasbro is trying to market to...a creative and intelligent young professional who doesn't buy their product but might. She is a history buff and a fan of classic literature but sees nothing of the mass market elements she expects to see that might interest her. It doesn't look like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. It looks weird and confusing. She's in consulting and marketing herself btw. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]On the subject, I thought fantasy RPGs did better then SF ones because they are based on a recognizable past we can all reference the same way.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]Of course this choice of a change in atmosphere is directly related to...[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]B) The art. I just don't like it that much but specifically I'm not a big fan of the designs of these two creatures. The Dragonborn do not look like Draogn Men to me but rather evoke images of Predator and D'Argo from Farscape. The Tiefling of late is a different colored Draenai. Not interesting to me at all as I've seen it before.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]Maybe the next PHB will contain more species I can get a handle on, though I'm sort of expecting Warforged, Klingons and beings made of pure magical energy. Neat yes but not what I'm looking for. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]AD[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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