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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Byronic" data-source="post: 4340765" data-attributes="member: 56829">Dragonborn and Tieflings just don't do anything for me. It's not because they're not archetypical, but they just don't do anything for me.I find the idea of Tieflings too Catholic in many ways. Not the amusing way as done in Hellblazer but simply boring. I don't like the "oh we're bad because of something someone 10.000 years ago did" thought. I'm not that much fan of the tail, the horns and I especially don't like the general writing about them. They just flatout bore me. I might have liked them if I read their planescape material but I haven't.I'm replacing them with Melniboneans. They're close enough in fiction to Tieflings, they had a pact with otherworldly powers. They had an evil empire that was either destroyed or declined. They both are intelligent races. One of the beautiful differences is the psychology of the creature. While Tieflings are written as people trying to conqure a dark side that I just don't see in them (at least not more then any othe creature) Melniboneans are as a people rather devoid of the softer emotions. In fact it is very rare for one to actually fall in love (some have become famous for such an act) Would be rare for someone to play one like Elric, one of the few of his kind with actual emotions. I just have to decide whether they have +2 in Wisdom or Charisma... and if Wis if I should let them use Wisdom instead of Charisma with pacts. And how to describe their psychology in such a way that wouldn't result in silly PCsI'm somewhere between indifferent to dislike when it comes to the Dragonborn. Their sole redeeming feature is that having them in the party means PCs possibly living longer and being better against Minions. As a race they do me nothing. Perhaps if they wrote something as to the difference between Dragonborn and Dragons? Strangely enough I like Lizardmen (although copied from warhammer) but Dragonborn? Nothing, blank, totally uninspiring. It's nice that 4ed sales have gone up because people apparently like the thought of them but they do me nothing. I'll keep them in if any of the players want to play them. Otherwise they're rare. So rare they might never ever see one.</blockquote>

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