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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 4354845" data-attributes="member: 21169">More and more I'm realising that both the new races were a really good idea.D&D needed a big strong honorable warrior race. It's a very popular concept as evidenced by the Klingons in Star Trek. They could've used orcs, but presumably wanted to keep them as bad guys a la Lord of the Rings.Also, people love dragons. They're almost as popular as elves. Was it in this thread someone wrote that WotC revealed any book with 'dragon' or 'magic' in the title sold more? And okay, dragonborn are only mini humanoid dragons, but that's as close as you're going to get and remain balanced. This ain't Rifts.And tieflings have got that whole emo goth Vampire-player vibe. I think they do occupy the same niche as Drizzt. Both look evil and everyone is all down on them for the way they look. Just like goth kids. Okay, Drizzt is really a cissy, whereas a tiefling may have any personality but it's basically the same idea - the evil appearance/not necessarily evil on the inside disconnect.To make room they got rid of the two most unpopular races in D&D. Gnomes were pointless. How many short arses did D&D need ffs? It's like Gary had almost as much of a hard on for short people as the 3e MM creators had for fishmen. Halflings got shorty covered. Elves got fey covered. So we don't need gnomes.And half-orcs? Well they could've gone the whole hog and made them orcs but for whatever reason, half-orcs have never been popular among D&D players. Maybe it was the int penalty. Most likely it was the ugliness. Your goth emo "people look at me and think I'm evil" fan won't stoop to actually being physically unattractive.</blockquote>

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