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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9731053" data-attributes="member: 18">I suspect very strongly that, were someone sufficiently motivated, they could compare the amounts of money/numbers of backers IP-focused games made/had in their KS-type campaigns, and then look at where those RPGs were now, and look at non-IP-focused RPGs in the same ballpark, and see how many of them had just vanished into the mists of time.I think what you'd find (and you'd have literally pay me to actually do the research, because it would take hours to do right, maybe days, and be incredibly boring) is that actually, yeah, IP-focused games tended to have extremely successful KS-type campaigns, but then a few years later, there were basically forgotten, just not a game people were playing, and also most of them would have very few or no support products, probably only the ones created in the KS. And it's fine for a game to not have support, but that + no evidence of anyone playing it? Probably means no-one is playing it.There will be exceptions too, whilst I think Mothership is gradually supplanting it, the Alien RPG seemed to do pretty well for a while. And I don't think any Star Wars RPG has been a total flop or vanished without a trace (unlike certain Marvel ones!).</blockquote>