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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9731295" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>You say you've "seen a number", and my instinctive inclination was to agree, then I looked on Kickstarter just to find some funny examples to mock for us, and I'm not really seeing any actual examples! We look at the "pretty good Kickstarter" range (what, like north of $100k? higher?) that IP-based games operate in (often they're very far north of that), all the non-IP KS'd TTRPGs I can see have, in fact got support and people playing them and so on, even 7th Sea 2nd Edition (amazingly, I didn't think it would have).</p><p></p><p>Whereas like the Altered Carbon RPG, have you even ever heard of that? It made $370k. Even the people who like it say "Wow no-one plays this, huh?" I'd be extremely confident in claiming many times as many people are playing Forbidden Lands, which made $295k, and is original.</p><p></p><p>I guess there's Invisible Sun, which seems to be owned-but-not-played, but like, I kind of thought that was the point (and surely one of the maniacs on this board has made his group play it!).</p><p></p><p>I don't want to argue a point I'm too lazy to research too strongly, but lazy casual "looking at a big list of RPGs that made money on KS and having to scroll past all the videogames KS doesn't let you exclude" tends to support my position imho. Not exactly compelling evidence I admit!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9731295, member: 18"] You say you've "seen a number", and my instinctive inclination was to agree, then I looked on Kickstarter just to find some funny examples to mock for us, and I'm not really seeing any actual examples! We look at the "pretty good Kickstarter" range (what, like north of $100k? higher?) that IP-based games operate in (often they're very far north of that), all the non-IP KS'd TTRPGs I can see have, in fact got support and people playing them and so on, even 7th Sea 2nd Edition (amazingly, I didn't think it would have). Whereas like the Altered Carbon RPG, have you even ever heard of that? It made $370k. Even the people who like it say "Wow no-one plays this, huh?" I'd be extremely confident in claiming many times as many people are playing Forbidden Lands, which made $295k, and is original. I guess there's Invisible Sun, which seems to be owned-but-not-played, but like, I kind of thought that was the point (and surely one of the maniacs on this board has made his group play it!). I don't want to argue a point I'm too lazy to research too strongly, but lazy casual "looking at a big list of RPGs that made money on KS and having to scroll past all the videogames KS doesn't let you exclude" tends to support my position imho. Not exactly compelling evidence I admit! [/QUOTE]
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