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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 1260219" data-attributes="member: 12037">But, in a low magic world, would the PCs even realize that someone was invisible? Or at least quickly. I remember a DM of ours was running a low magic game for us and we complained that all we ever fought were goblins and other humans, so he decided to throw a pair of Barghests at us in the next adventure apparently. Nearly wiped us out.  One of them levetated into the air, taking us off guard, and another in wolf form moved around behind us. Long story short, rogue got chomped and we ran like little sissies. Made us feel so more heroic. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Note that we were level 7 at this point, and these shouln't be that bad, but we were a fighter/barbarian and two rogues who had no idea what a charm was or why one guy decided to approach the wolf creature. Not to mention some weird floating goblin! Plus I think it had DR because my arrows weren't doing much... not that my character had ever experienced anything like DR before! Of course, I don't know what your world is like. Maybe its low magic but spellcasters are well known and their tactics are understood? We didn't see a single wizard in our low magic campaign, and only one sorcerer, a kid who had just manifested his abilities. Some clerics were known, but they're controled by the clergy and arn't really allowed the freedom of adventuring. One was with us for a while and that made things much easier. For a long time the "spellcaster" in our group was an NPC bard who specialized in self buffs. I admit in these circumstances, the problem isn't finding a wizard or other spellcaster that wants to kill you, its finding some random magical beast that your characters have no idea about and can do things you deemed impossible only minutes before. CRs stop working, but that goes without saying, and I'm sure you realize that. It's just hard sometimes. Very very hard.</blockquote>

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