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<blockquote data-quote="Cake Mage" data-source="post: 3786252" data-attributes="member: 2707">I know what it is.&nbsp; Its the fact that they've been leading up to this with supplaments and alternate rules with Saga, and the PHII and what not.&nbsp; I've been using the stuff for a while (well some of the stuff that I've seen already) in my current game. Warlocks and skill tricks, and even the the Bo9S stuff my group has started to use more.&nbsp; Yes I know its not core rules, but If that is all that is changing.... :-(---The magic system has changed in 4th ed?&nbsp; From what I know, which may, or may not be everything ;-p,&nbsp; they haven't said &quot;Spell casting is differnt in this way, X,Y, and Z.&quot;&nbsp; They have implied changes are coming, like 30th level spells, implements, etc, but they haven't said anything, that I'm aware of, that says it is different.Adding 30th level spells is not a new edition.&nbsp;&nbsp; Changing or adding classes (or removing them) is not a new edition.I agree its still early.&nbsp; I'm just worried, very worried.&nbsp; I want to make sure the game that I like to play is still good and a game I want to play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cake Mage, post: 3786252, member: 2707"] I know what it is. Its the fact that they've been leading up to this with supplaments and alternate rules with Saga, and the PHII and what not. I've been using the stuff for a while (well some of the stuff that I've seen already) in my current game. Warlocks and skill tricks, and even the the Bo9S stuff my group has started to use more. Yes I know its not core rules, but If that is all that is changing.... :-( --- The magic system has changed in 4th ed? From what I know, which may, or may not be everything ;-p, they haven't said "Spell casting is differnt in this way, X,Y, and Z." They have implied changes are coming, like 30th level spells, implements, etc, but they haven't said anything, that I'm aware of, that says it is different. Adding 30th level spells is not a new edition. Changing or adding classes (or removing them) is not a new edition. I agree its still early. I'm just worried, very worried. I want to make sure the game that I like to play is still good and a game I want to play. [/QUOTE]

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