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Does anyone else feel like the action economy and the way actions work in general in 5e both just suck?
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<blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 7937023" data-attributes="member: 6920677"><p>This would seem to be a table specific observation, as the monks and barbarians that I have seen played, have been quite effective, the largest damage dealers in aggregate over time due to <em>more attacks, earlier than most classes</em>. (Frenzy Barbarian)</p><p></p><p>Monks in particular seem especially potent, Qi point Superman jump can get the monk within striking distance, when the Fighter is still out of combat range.</p><p></p><p>Qi Jump up to strike a flying creature combined with Stunning Strike, to knock said flying creature to the ground so all PCs can attack it, is quite the opposite of <em>Irrelevant</em> in my book..it is Session MVP worthy.</p><p></p><p>But hey, some people are just adamant in their opinions, like casters are overpowered and monks suck. I would love to see some evidence, (in a different thread please) <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😊" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60a.png" title="Smiling face with smiling eyes :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If empathy and sympathy for people, <em>unfortunately</em>, post venting and phrasing things in a way others may find insulting, while also understanding and having felt the resultant reaction others and myself have had of being ‘tired’ of reading such venting, is <em>wrong</em>...then I am unapologetically wrong.</p><p></p><p>I don’t agree with S.O.S. position in this thread. No offense to Son of Serpent, I don’t think S.O.S. has presented convincing arguments, but post one is not the place, in my view, to tell someone to go take a hike.</p><p></p><p>If atanakar and Oofta were hurt by my posts, they have my apologies. I don’t think they were, but my thoughts on that is irrelevant, if harm was felt, my contrition is sincere.</p><p></p><p>As for Sage Advice, I’ve disagreed with things Gary Gygax, Skip Williams, and Jeremy Crawford have written. The immediacy of Twitter, <em>in my opinion</em>, tends to result in Sage responses that seem rushed, and perhaps, not given due consideration.</p><p></p><p>If Jeremy Crawford was playing with me as a DM, I would expect he would at least tolerate my rules interpretations at the table, as I would his if situations were reversed...that is how Gamers Roll is it not?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Todd Roybark, post: 7937023, member: 6920677"] This would seem to be a table specific observation, as the monks and barbarians that I have seen played, have been quite effective, the largest damage dealers in aggregate over time due to [I]more attacks, earlier than most classes[/I]. (Frenzy Barbarian) Monks in particular seem especially potent, Qi point Superman jump can get the monk within striking distance, when the Fighter is still out of combat range. Qi Jump up to strike a flying creature combined with Stunning Strike, to knock said flying creature to the ground so all PCs can attack it, is quite the opposite of [I]Irrelevant[/I] in my book..it is Session MVP worthy. But hey, some people are just adamant in their opinions, like casters are overpowered and monks suck. I would love to see some evidence, (in a different thread please) 😊 If empathy and sympathy for people, [I]unfortunately[/I], post venting and phrasing things in a way others may find insulting, while also understanding and having felt the resultant reaction others and myself have had of being ‘tired’ of reading such venting, is [I]wrong[/I]...then I am unapologetically wrong. I don’t agree with S.O.S. position in this thread. No offense to Son of Serpent, I don’t think S.O.S. has presented convincing arguments, but post one is not the place, in my view, to tell someone to go take a hike. If atanakar and Oofta were hurt by my posts, they have my apologies. I don’t think they were, but my thoughts on that is irrelevant, if harm was felt, my contrition is sincere. As for Sage Advice, I’ve disagreed with things Gary Gygax, Skip Williams, and Jeremy Crawford have written. The immediacy of Twitter, [I]in my opinion[/I], tends to result in Sage responses that seem rushed, and perhaps, not given due consideration. If Jeremy Crawford was playing with me as a DM, I would expect he would at least tolerate my rules interpretations at the table, as I would his if situations were reversed...that is how Gamers Roll is it not? [/QUOTE]
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