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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7937338" data-attributes="member: 83242">I don't even know what traditional D&D is!  When I started playing 4e (which we loved), I dug out my house rules for 1e and they were 20 pages long!  Combined with that and what I started reading on the WotC forums and EnWorld (same time as 4e basically) I realized we never played "traditional" D&D, even back in the 80s.  The changes in 4e matched many of the changes in my 1e house rules, it was really crazy.  Anyway, I loved the innovation in 4e.  I also loved the innovation 5e.  We are slowly combined the two into what is the best system for us.   I am not sure what we play could even be called 5e at this point, it is really mix of 4e, 5e, 1e, and others.That's the tough part, we have done so much work with our custom 5e, and it fits us so well, I don't see my group changing.  I would like to play some different games, but I can't imagine DMing anything else really.</blockquote>