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Does anyone else feel like the action economy and the way actions work in general in 5e both just suck?
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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7938664" data-attributes="member: 6895991"><p>Well, but I think it is written somewhere in the DMG (does that count as RAW?) that a DM is free to make up rulings for situations when there is no clear rule, for the sake of the game fun.</p><p></p><p>I mean watch those PAX live sessions, often with JC as a DM and you often see them making stunts a la "I jump on the dragons neck and poke him into the nostril with my magic dagger" or "I take the Halfling and throw him over the chasm directly into the face of the first orc waiting there".</p><p></p><p>What I am trying to say is, that imho it does not matter which rulings a DM uses in a borderline situation, as long as he follows the "Player x:' I attempt this and that' , DM: 'Yes but (roll for ....)'" principle.</p><p>5e is explicitly designed for those situations, and even with your double sentinel example, there seems to be an exception for that feat if both players have it, as [USER=6987520]@dnd4vr[/USER] posted in #210 above.</p><p></p><p>And it does not unbalance whether DM A thinks a STR check is the right solution for a fringe problem, while DM B wants an athletics check. Both are valid approaches supported by RAW.</p><p></p><p>It also is not possible (at least I would think that way) to conclude from one special situation and its attached ruling, where e.g. a player tries the "kick dirt into the mobs face" thing to another like e.g. a player throws an egg as an improvised weapon. One might be resolved with a DEX check, the other with an attack roll.</p><p>Depending on whether the egg was rotten or not, either a CON or a DEX save might be the right thing for the mob to avoid consequences. No need for an edition of UA for each new exceptional stunt, just to cast everything in iron.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7938664, member: 6895991"] Well, but I think it is written somewhere in the DMG (does that count as RAW?) that a DM is free to make up rulings for situations when there is no clear rule, for the sake of the game fun. I mean watch those PAX live sessions, often with JC as a DM and you often see them making stunts a la "I jump on the dragons neck and poke him into the nostril with my magic dagger" or "I take the Halfling and throw him over the chasm directly into the face of the first orc waiting there". What I am trying to say is, that imho it does not matter which rulings a DM uses in a borderline situation, as long as he follows the "Player x:' I attempt this and that' , DM: 'Yes but (roll for ....)'" principle. 5e is explicitly designed for those situations, and even with your double sentinel example, there seems to be an exception for that feat if both players have it, as [USER=6987520]@dnd4vr[/USER] posted in #210 above. And it does not unbalance whether DM A thinks a STR check is the right solution for a fringe problem, while DM B wants an athletics check. Both are valid approaches supported by RAW. It also is not possible (at least I would think that way) to conclude from one special situation and its attached ruling, where e.g. a player tries the "kick dirt into the mobs face" thing to another like e.g. a player throws an egg as an improvised weapon. One might be resolved with a DEX check, the other with an attack roll. Depending on whether the egg was rotten or not, either a CON or a DEX save might be the right thing for the mob to avoid consequences. No need for an edition of UA for each new exceptional stunt, just to cast everything in iron. [/QUOTE]
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