Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7941538" data-attributes="member: 93670">.millions of people manage to wrangle the complexities of things like baking things from a recipe or memory, driving a car or truck, &amp; many more.&nbsp; I'd say navigate through TSA but usefulness&nbsp; is a debatable problem with that one.Yes I already pointed out evidence for the need of those options in the form of wotc not removing them entirely, I'll go one further &amp; point out how even though fate uses zones rather than a grid... even fate&nbsp; includes a section on moving around when there is someone or something is preventing you from doing so with situation aspects &amp; it's movement rules.&nbsp; Fate is about as rules light as it gets.More importantly you ignored the fact that I questioned you on the fact that you actually asked why a variant rule needs to work in isolation without needing the gm to finish it.Are you incapable of addressing points raised by anyone?... You are going back to why should someone have the nerve to expect a variant rule to fill the need they present themself as being a solution for rather than admit multiple unfinished rules wasting pagespace could have been used for one complete variant rule for literally anything else?... that should be like managing to pass a 10foot high <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=limbo+party+game&amp;tbm=isch&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjE-M2Z9ZfoAhWP3FkKHQ28DkcQ2-cCegQIABAA&amp;oq=limbo+party+game&amp;gs_l=img.3..0j0i24l2.9304.10231..10522...0.0..0.116.478.4j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i7i30j0i8i7i30.00k0XU4O7XI&amp;ei=zrprXsTZJo-55wKN-Lq4BA&amp;rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS859US859" target="_blank">limbo pole</a>.&nbsp; It seems like your argument is in the process of morphing to &quot;why&nbsp; should positioning rules that give benefits for certain positions not include any cost or effort to obtaining those positions&quot; but you aren't willing to say such an absurd statement, is that correct?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7941538, member: 93670"] . millions of people manage to wrangle the complexities of things like baking things from a recipe or memory, driving a car or truck, & many more. I'd say navigate through TSA but usefulness is a debatable problem with that one. Yes I already pointed out evidence for the need of those options in the form of wotc not removing them entirely, I'll go one further & point out how even though fate uses zones rather than a grid... even fate includes a section on moving around when there is someone or something is preventing you from doing so with situation aspects & it's movement rules. Fate is about as rules light as it gets. More importantly you ignored the fact that I questioned you on the fact that you actually asked why a variant rule needs to work in isolation without needing the gm to finish it. Are you incapable of addressing points raised by anyone?... You are going back to why should someone have the nerve to expect a variant rule to fill the need they present themself as being a solution for rather than admit multiple unfinished rules wasting pagespace could have been used for one complete variant rule for literally [I]anything e[/I]lse?... that should be like managing to pass a 10foot high [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=limbo+party+game&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjE-M2Z9ZfoAhWP3FkKHQ28DkcQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=limbo+party+game&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24l2.9304.10231..10522...0.0..0.116.478.4j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i7i30j0i8i7i30.00k0XU4O7XI&ei=zrprXsTZJo-55wKN-Lq4BA&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS859US859']limbo pole[/URL]. It seems like your argument is in the process of morphing to "why should positioning rules that give benefits for certain positions not include any cost or effort to obtaining those positions" but you aren't willing to say such an absurd statement, is that correct? [/QUOTE]

Verification