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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadow" data-source="post: 1798040" data-attributes="member: 2182">This thread has really gotten some replies.  My initial post was a little "ranty" (as many posts are).  As far as the planes being "complex", I was refering to a lot of the 1e and 2e material, especially the Planescape setting (which was often very surreal).  The heavens and hells were pretty straightfoward, but I never quite got the idea of the elemental planes, the para-elemental planes, and the quasi-elemental planes.  Nor did I ever quite get the idea of ethereal creatures and characters "existing simulataneously on the prime material plane and the ethereal plane."However, all that aside, my biggest beef with the standard D&D cosmology , as many have already mentioned, is the fact that too many campaigns center around "plane-hopping".  I always envisioned the planes as the home of the gods and demons, not just another location to slay monsters for this week's adventure.  Going from plane to plane on adventures seems to be out of a bad sci-fi serial, rather than the legends and myths that I try to emulate for my campaigns.  For that reason my home brew features just three planes: the material world, the heavens, and the hells.  I'm not going to have players ever visit the heavens or hells, at least not until epic levels.</blockquote>