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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 5936492" data-attributes="member: 17077">I'd rather that not be left to the DM. I hate when things are that arbitrary. Obviously, the rules can't cover anything, but this is a very common spell and is one of the things that should have rules.Sorry, but I don't find that at all helpful. Telling me what the DC is to climb a typical wall or pick a typical lock gives me no help at all in deciding how hard it should be to analyze a spell with detect magic. It's not like it would be hard for them to add this. It would take all of one sentence or two to say the DC is 10 + spell level or 10 + caster's ability modifier or whatever else.So the strength of an illusionist or transmuter should vary wildly from one table to the next, just because different DMs will naturally interpret this spell in different ways? I don't consider that to be an advantage, or good game design. I'd rather be given a consistent and complete set of rules, and then house rule it if I don't find it to my taste, then to be left completely on my own to have to make up so much of the rules on the fly.Not only does it slow down play for the DM to have to abritrate these things as they constantly come up during play, but let's face it, not every DM has what it takes to be a good game designer. I'd say I have a pretty good grasp of the rules and am fairly decent at that kind of thing, but alot of people aren't, and it shouldn't be a requirement for being a DM. I don't want to have to do that in the middle of a game, in any case. I'd rather create house rules when I've had time to consider them and test them out. When I have to make something up on the spot, it's probably not going to be that great, and then if I have to change it later, it creates confusion, possibly even conflict among the group. As the DM, I don't like vague and incomplete rules that constantly put me on the spot. Some DMs may like having all of that freedom and power, but for me, it just feels like it makes my job alot harder.</blockquote>

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