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Does anyone else think D&D 4th edition should be more like 2nd edition
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<blockquote data-quote="Foundry of Decay" data-source="post: 1743301" data-attributes="member: 846"><p>I would personally rather allow large, angry gorillas to spank me around my back yard with nail-studded oars while my neighbors threw beer bottles at me in drunken revellry than go back to 2e.</p><p></p><p>First of all, wouldn't it be pointless to release a new edition just to cover an edition that has already been done for over two decades? Is there some strange, incredibly obscure rule that you feel you may have missed with the few thousand supplements and world books that were released under the old system?</p><p></p><p>Progress would mean improving on the existing. Or at least trying to, and I'd certainly not want to go back to rules that seemed not to even belong to the same system. Thief checks using percentile dice (and therefor be limited to an arbitrary number between 1 and 100 no matter what your dexterity), Thac0 which I've never been impressed with, and a myriad of other things that have already been explained by others in this post.</p><p></p><p>I will admit that 2e had an elegance in areas, but I recall playing for years and only getting characters to 9th level because of the insane experience system. These days I don't have entire summers to blow on playing nothing but D&D, and I like a streamlined system that allows me to advance once in a while and actually *mean* something in game terms. I found 2e pointless to advance in unless you were a caster of some sort.</p><p></p><p>So count this as a no vote. Second edition rules has already been done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Foundry of Decay, post: 1743301, member: 846"] I would personally rather allow large, angry gorillas to spank me around my back yard with nail-studded oars while my neighbors threw beer bottles at me in drunken revellry than go back to 2e. First of all, wouldn't it be pointless to release a new edition just to cover an edition that has already been done for over two decades? Is there some strange, incredibly obscure rule that you feel you may have missed with the few thousand supplements and world books that were released under the old system? Progress would mean improving on the existing. Or at least trying to, and I'd certainly not want to go back to rules that seemed not to even belong to the same system. Thief checks using percentile dice (and therefor be limited to an arbitrary number between 1 and 100 no matter what your dexterity), Thac0 which I've never been impressed with, and a myriad of other things that have already been explained by others in this post. I will admit that 2e had an elegance in areas, but I recall playing for years and only getting characters to 9th level because of the insane experience system. These days I don't have entire summers to blow on playing nothing but D&D, and I like a streamlined system that allows me to advance once in a while and actually *mean* something in game terms. I found 2e pointless to advance in unless you were a caster of some sort. So count this as a no vote. Second edition rules has already been done. [/QUOTE]
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