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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quickbeam" data-source="post: 177013" data-attributes="member: 635">We've Rule Zeroed spell components for sorcerers in our group, but hadn't settled on a satisfactory system for cost or focus yet.  I really like the idea of spell fetishes or arcane focus items, though.Nonetheless, I agree with those who say sorcerers have an innate gift for magic, and IMO spell components breaks with that concept.  In my mind, the first time a sorc casts a spell, it's purely by accident...or at least without directed thought set on creating a spell effect.  Imagine Carrie White from Stephen King's Carrie if you will -- that's the type of magical ability discovery I see transpiring with sorcerers.  Besides, it's unlikely they'd ever stumble onto the correct combination of material components, gestures and phrases necessary to trigger a spell by happenstance.  In other words, sorcerers would never know the natural powers they possessed unless they spent time studying which components were required to cast spells.  That sounds like a wizard to me.And as for Jack Daniel's comments, I will simply say that arcane could be construed as spells cast without divine providence.  I understand you take arcane to mean "must use spell components" but that's your interpretation...which is perfectly reasonable.  Our group simply prefers a greater distinction in how wizards cast their spells when compared to sorcs, and as such see arcane spells as those not obtained through prayer.</blockquote>

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