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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 8800036" data-attributes="member: 6988941">Interesting. Simplifying for accessibility and new player experiences would be a cause I could actually support. My issue is that many of the changes needlessly complicate things. Why have the rule be &quot;crits double the dice&quot; when the rule can be &quot;crits double the dice, but not for magic, and not for monsters, and not for additional non-weapon dice&quot;? Why not make everyone also master the feats system to roll up their first character? Why not make someone wade through the entire Arcane spell list and sift them out by spell school in order to roll up a Bard?Which is all to say that while I agree that they are simplifying in some places, I don't think that is actually the guiding star of this edition (would that it were, then there would be a guiding star). Or if it is, I think they have a perverse and misguided sense of what &quot;simplification&quot; is. Obviously on a broad conceptual level it is simpler to have only three spell lists, but for a player actually trying to pick spells from one who has not already memorized the lists it almost certainly isn't. Dividing the 12 core classes into 4 equal categories is very orderly and in that sense &quot;simple&quot;, but, if the categories are misleading, inaccurate, and an artificial construct, it doesn't actually simplify anything for anyone.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Benjamin Olson, post: 8800036, member: 6988941"] Interesting. Simplifying for accessibility and new player experiences would be a cause I could actually support. My issue is that many of the changes needlessly complicate things. Why have the rule be "crits double the dice" when the rule can be "crits double the dice, but not for magic, and not for monsters, and not for additional non-weapon dice"? Why not make everyone also master the feats system to roll up their first character? Why not make someone wade through the entire Arcane spell list and sift them out by spell school in order to roll up a Bard? Which is all to say that while I agree that they are simplifying in some places, I don't think that is actually the guiding star of this edition (would that it were, then there would be a guiding star). Or if it is, I think they have a perverse and misguided sense of what "simplification" is. Obviously on a broad conceptual level it is simpler to have only three spell lists, but for a player actually trying to pick spells from one who has not already memorized the lists it almost certainly isn't. Dividing the 12 core classes into 4 equal categories is very orderly and in that sense "simple", but, if the categories are misleading, inaccurate, and an artificial construct, it doesn't actually simplify anything for anyone. [/QUOTE]

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