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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5230333" data-attributes="member: 71571">'When you use an arcane attack power and you are wielding a magic implement in each hand, you can add the off-hand implement's enhancement bonus to damage rolls.'The feat doesn't say anything about that.&nbsp; It says you can add the other implements enhancement bonus to damage rolls, contradicting the rule on bonus stacking, and thusly, specific beating general, you can therefore add both enhancement bonuses.It does NOT create another bonus type, nor does it even infer it.&nbsp; It blatantly says 'You add that other thing there.'&nbsp; There is no bonus laundering going on with DIS.DIS seems to have wording other than what you claim.The 'combo' was using a staff with Staff Fighting and DIS so that the staff acts as both the off-hand and the main hand.&nbsp; This would work because the staff would be wielded in the off-hand and in the main hand.&nbsp; Thusly, you're wielding implements in both hands... DIS doesn't actually require two implements.However, let's say it's a staff of ruin.&nbsp; Staff of Ruin's enhancement bonus carries the same name as Staff of Ruin's enhancement bonus (because they are the same thing) and therefore cannot stack without an explicit exception to the same name rule.&nbsp; DIS only creates an exception to how adding multiple enhancement bonuses stack.No, instead of +1 every 5 levels, it's +2 every 10 levels.And as we know, the rate 1/5 is TOTALLY different than 2/10.Seriously tho, if you're running the inherent bonus varient, and your players are trying to use magic bonuses to minmax, etc, might I entertain the notion that someone in this situation doesn't quite understand the entire point of what's going on there.&nbsp; 'We have this rule so you don't have to deal in magic bonuses.'&nbsp; 'Awesome, why doesn't it work with magic bonuses properly!&nbsp; I'm trying to minmax my magic bonuses!'That's the point where you take the IAoP and the DIS from the players, and go 'Seriously guys, pay attention to what the hells going on in this damn game.'</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5230333, member: 71571"] 'When you use an arcane attack power and you are wielding a magic implement in each hand, you can add the off-hand implement's enhancement bonus to damage rolls.' The feat doesn't say anything about that. It says you can add the other implements enhancement bonus to damage rolls, contradicting the rule on bonus stacking, and thusly, specific beating general, you can therefore add both enhancement bonuses. It does NOT create another bonus type, nor does it even infer it. It blatantly says 'You add that other thing there.' There is no bonus laundering going on with DIS. DIS seems to have wording other than what you claim. The 'combo' was using a staff with Staff Fighting and DIS so that the staff acts as both the off-hand and the main hand. This would work because the staff would be wielded in the off-hand and in the main hand. Thusly, you're wielding implements in both hands... DIS doesn't actually require two implements. However, let's say it's a staff of ruin. Staff of Ruin's enhancement bonus carries the same name as Staff of Ruin's enhancement bonus (because they are the same thing) and therefore cannot stack without an explicit exception to the same name rule. DIS only creates an exception to how adding multiple enhancement bonuses stack. No, instead of +1 every 5 levels, it's +2 every 10 levels. And as we know, the rate 1/5 is TOTALLY different than 2/10. Seriously tho, if you're running the inherent bonus varient, and your players are trying to use magic bonuses to minmax, etc, might I entertain the notion that someone in this situation doesn't quite understand the entire point of what's going on there. 'We have this rule so you don't have to deal in magic bonuses.' 'Awesome, why doesn't it work with magic bonuses properly! I'm trying to minmax my magic bonuses!' That's the point where you take the IAoP and the DIS from the players, and go 'Seriously guys, pay attention to what the hells going on in this damn game.' [/QUOTE]

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