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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 6515572" data-attributes="member: 6677017">My players are 4th level in LMoP. Tiefling Eldritch Knight, Human Life Cleric, Human Wild Mage, Dragonborn Arcane Trickster, Drow Transmuter, and Human Way of the Open Hand Monk.I allowed the players to roll stats, and then choose whether to keep the roll or use point buy. Most player rolled quite well and kept it. The monk player rolled the lowest. One of my players suggested allowing him to use the array of the other player who rolled the worst but didn't go with point buy. That array was nothing special, but by taking the standard (non-variant) human and going with that array he came out ahead of point buy. The other character (except the one he borrowed the array from--who went with variant human) all have better stats. At 4th level his stats are Str 10, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 14. He took Tough as his 4th level feat.The monk is awesome. I've house ruled the stats of a quarterstaff to only do 1d6 (amongst other things). He is wielding a nerfed (for a monk) quarterstaff for 1d6+4 damage, and an unarmed 1d4+4 damage with Martial Arts. When he uses ki (which he does regularly) he gets that extra 1d4+4 attack, and can force his opponent to make a save or be pushed or tripped--and he can do that twice in the turn. And if he happened to succeed on tripping them, then additional attacks are made with advantage.The only other character who can compete with him on damage output is the two-weapon fighting rogue--since you almost have to try to not qualify for sneak attack in 5e.The Str 18 fighter gets one attack with a +1 longsword unless he action surges, and the Str 19 (gauntlets of ogre power) cleric just upgraded his single attack to be with a +1 mace. The sorcerer and wizard have firebolt as their standby attacks.They aren't even close to the regular damage output of the monk. He also has the third best hp and third best AC in a six-party group. He often seems to be the party's MVP in DPR, and has never come off as weak in any particular area. He does take more damage than the heavily armored fighter and cleric, but he's mobile enough that he rarely actually goes down.So maybe if the entire rest of the group were somehow damage optimized and the monk wasn't they would suck. But from my experiences with my players, the way of the open hand monk rocks.</blockquote>

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