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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9394480" data-attributes="member: 6877472">I had a similar reaction when I started using the RAW rules.&nbsp; I started playing 5e in Adventure League, and everyone was running darkvision as it was in 3e and 4e- having come from those games, I didn't question it at first.&nbsp; But then when I was preparing to take a swing at DMing 5e, one player with more 5e experience (who &quot;knew all the rules&quot;) was bragging about how his Rogue with Observant and Darkvision was going to ambush all the monsters with ease and I got to thinking &quot;is it really that easy?&quot;.So I read darkvision, saw the dim light thing, found dim light (as well as the -5 to passive Perception rule) and quietly implemented it.&nbsp; It didn't take long before the player was accusing me of cheating or increasing DC's to foil him.&nbsp; I pointed him at the rules in question, right in the PHB.&nbsp; &quot;I'm sorry, but since you've been playing 5e longer than I have, I thought you &quot;knew all the rules&quot;.Petty of me, yes, but satisfying.&nbsp; Since then, I noticed that most of the complaints about darkvision generally come down to one of two things- not using these penalties (or not making them matter) or over-optimized PC's who have decided to opt out of seeing things being an issue (which is a whole other kettle of fish).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9394480, member: 6877472"] I had a similar reaction when I started using the RAW rules. I started playing 5e in Adventure League, and everyone was running darkvision as it was in 3e and 4e- having come from those games, I didn't question it at first. But then when I was preparing to take a swing at DMing 5e, one player with more 5e experience (who "knew all the rules") was bragging about how his Rogue with Observant and Darkvision was going to ambush all the monsters with ease and I got to thinking "is it really that easy?". So I read darkvision, saw the dim light thing, found dim light (as well as the -5 to passive Perception rule) and quietly implemented it. It didn't take long before the player was accusing me of cheating or increasing DC's to foil him. I pointed him at the rules in question, right in the PHB. "I'm sorry, but since you've been playing 5e longer than I have, I thought you "knew all the rules". Petty of me, yes, but satisfying. Since then, I noticed that most of the complaints about darkvision generally come down to one of two things- not using these penalties (or not making them matter) or over-optimized PC's who have decided to opt out of seeing things being an issue (which is a whole other kettle of fish). [/QUOTE]

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