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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lord_banus" data-source="post: 1418378" data-attributes="member: 9869">There is nothing wrong with these characters as they are fufilling their concepts. Thats not the point i am trying to get at. My point is that if the greatest even killing machine was afraid of small children, it would make for a better well rounded character. What I am saying is that the min-maxing skill is getting in the way of the roleplaying skill and while it is independant it does have an effect. I guess it comes down to balancing a character. My example of the Verrik may have skewed the conversation a little. A character has more depth when it has flaws, they may be low ability scores, less useful skills or some other disadvantage. They need not hamper the main focus of the character but should have some impact on play. A lot of fantasy characters have their flawsConan - Dumb, Last of tribeLuke Skywalker - Naive, country hickMOst of the Characters out of Belgarion/Belgarathetc</blockquote>