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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lordxaviar" data-source="post: 5403306" data-attributes="member: 56673">To quote the Dmg.   NPC’s gain experience points the same way that PC’s do. Not being adventurers, however, their opportunities are more limited.      This goes on for a bit more but you should get the point here.     Further.     Adept:  …don’t have the resources to train wizards and clerics… …can be found in isolated… most prevalent among more bestial humanoid…  Now they are skilled with all simple weapons     Last statement was the most influential on my deciding on the starting age.  Learning all those weapons with out specialized training should take some time.     I didn’t actually make it much longer, if you looked.. a cleric is +2d6 or 2-12 years… I made adept 3d4 or 3-12 such a trivial amount I debated it for a while but let it stand. I must guess you cant really argue with this…     An Aristocrat I matched up with barbarian and though I don’t understand rogue being so young, with all the extra skills I thought of making aristocrats older, but with all the  skills and knowledge of the thief only taking that long it kinda matched up with the DMG’s talk about the aristocrat:  “…it has an impressive selection of skills and respectable combat training  So I don’t see your problem here.     Now for Commoners : “Therefore, a commoner is likely to progress in levels very slowly. Most commoners never attain higher than 2nd or 3rd level in their whole lives….”       So with just reaching adulthood makes the nobody a commoner, I made it slightly shorter than rogue.  ‘Again I can’t see the problem here.     Now warrior,  without formal training would take longer to become skilled in the same arts as a fighter     Again….     No for the last… the Expert I made this 4d3 or 4- 12 again not very much of a change, yet you seem to be highly against it.     I state that my ratio on the ages is a good derivation, and that your attempts at degrading it are merely your Opinion and one I think most shall disagree with.  Now if you have anything to offer like reasonable extrapolation for use on another world. (as you say you use ebbron-a world I find distasteful, living robots indeed!!!! Lol, I have never read anything of this place, I stick to greyhawk, with FR and Dragonlance via spelljammer only. So please if you have another chart I would love to see it, to perhaps figure out how you came about it.     We can agree to disagree but don’t malign my work without a decent argument</blockquote>

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